Ivan Rakitić
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Sorin
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Vilarrubi
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Messi went missing once against Roma.. but you realise in games like that not every player is equally responsible.
The MIDFIELD for me was by far the most responsable for that defeat.. even though the defence had a shocker.
Umtiti and Pique got bullied but there didn’t need to be that much pressure put on them which was down to the midfield.
Iniesta, Busi, Rakitic and Roberto were all shocking in that game, ZERO control.. made the whole team nervous, couldn’t find a forward pass to save their lives. But we’ve seen this sort of play from Rakitic in the tough games more than others, the backpasses, the lack of agility and ability to turn a man in midfield. Rakitic is great for La Liga though.. but tougher games goes missing more than most.
KingLeo10
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Messi won us matches v juve, chelsea, atletico, real. Rakitic was only great in the Real games of those. Both Messi and Rakitic were flops VS Roma. So this is just absurd, as are some of your comments about "CR7 insane warrior strength". That insane warrior mental strength didn't win shit when Barca was at the top of the world between 08 and 2012. So, this MIA and mental strength arguments are out of place and purely supported by cherry picked time periods/stats.
Sorin
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Messi vs Chelsea and the argument is put to bed. It's downright retarded to even say such things.
Messi singlehandedly dragged us through the autumn and the winter in La Liga when Suarez was a no-show.
What BBZ said should be considered as trolling or the guy really is that daft.
Messi singlehandedly dragged us through the autumn and the winter in La Liga when Suarez was a no-show.
What BBZ said should be considered as trolling or the guy really is that daft.
He 100% was. And that was not his natural position/role. People don t sim to understand, that he plays the way he is asked to.
Also, i don t think Busi should be untouchable. Xavi-Iniesta era is gone, if we can t dominate (just)with technical ability/creativity, we will need more speed/aggression.
JerseyAddict
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Shitstorm on Raki started and the season has not yet started. Nothing new. 
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
My reasoning is simple:
I won't play a 4-4-2, but if they do I would choose Busquets because I would prefer the control he provides and play Coutinho and Vidal. Both bring more pace and Vidal brings the the defending ability of Rakitic + aggression and more dynamism. You replace Rakitic's output, but retain some level of control in the midfield so it isn't Klopp level rock and roll suicidal midfield football.
It's not me shitting on Rakitic or glorifying Busquets like he's some untouchable demigod right now. Nor am I clueless, it's an opinion, deal with it. One of the reasons we've struggled is because we've played two slow DMs with limited mobility. Don't need two, can only afford one such player in the midfield.
I've already pointed out how Busquets might decline earlier than Xavi or Iniesta and that we might need to replace him sooner and the same goes for Rakitic. Both of these two players have been among our worst players in key, high intensity games the last 2-3 seasons and that's a problem.
I won't overlook Rakitic's flaws in my opinion just because he's sacrificing himself. He's sacrificing himself for Barca and I commend him for that. Great player and seem to be a good person too, but not the first player that has sacrificed his potential for the sake of the team, nor will he be the last one.
I won't play a 4-4-2, but if they do I would choose Busquets because I would prefer the control he provides and play Coutinho and Vidal. Both bring more pace and Vidal brings the the defending ability of Rakitic + aggression and more dynamism. You replace Rakitic's output, but retain some level of control in the midfield so it isn't Klopp level rock and roll suicidal midfield football.
It's not me shitting on Rakitic or glorifying Busquets like he's some untouchable demigod right now. Nor am I clueless, it's an opinion, deal with it. One of the reasons we've struggled is because we've played two slow DMs with limited mobility. Don't need two, can only afford one such player in the midfield.
I've already pointed out how Busquets might decline earlier than Xavi or Iniesta and that we might need to replace him sooner and the same goes for Rakitic. Both of these two players have been among our worst players in key, high intensity games the last 2-3 seasons and that's a problem.
I won't overlook Rakitic's flaws in my opinion just because he's sacrificing himself. He's sacrificing himself for Barca and I commend him for that. Great player and seem to be a good person too, but not the first player that has sacrificed his potential for the sake of the team, nor will he be the last one.
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DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
Of course. That's where Vidal will come in handy + Coutinho will have to do his job too. Suarez and Messi should press up front in key games at least instead of strolling around.
Sorin
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Suarez is sometimes running like a headless chicken when pressing and Messi doesn't bother closing down passing lanes by shifting his position a few meters. This is also on the manager who should work on our pressing phases some more so all our players are in sinc when doing that. This in turn will also help Rakitic and Busquets tremendously as they wouldn't be faced with players coming 100km/h, 1 on 1 when a grand canyon sized gap opens up in front of them.
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