25 - Wojciech Szczęsny

Horatio

You're welcome
We were all sweating flick for not starting him over pena sooner even though Pena did well.

This is why, a top keeper just gives fans and the team a sense of calm and confidence.
revisionism.

Flick got criticized for dropping Pena after his performances. And Tek becoming first pick was especially criticized with his early performances.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
revisionism.

Flick got criticized for dropping Pena after his performances. And Tek becoming first pick was especially criticized with his early performances.

Firstly revisionism would insinuate that i was for pena, which i certainly was not, so no need for me to do that.

The mass majority of fans here wanted Tek to start over pena, period.

This one poster who's name slips me right now kept on repeating flick must know whats happening in training and kinda of supporting tek and maybe a few others, which was understandable given Pena played well.

But 80% the members here wanted Tek to start, the reactionary thing regarding tek first games, was typical of this place.

You trying to sneakily claim a W, i see you.
 

Horatio

You're welcome
Firstly revisionism would insinuate that i was for pena, which i certainly was not, so no need for me to do that.

The mass majority of fans here wanted Tek to start over pena, period.

This one poster who's name slips me right now kept on repeating flick must know whats happening in training and kinda of supporting tek and maybe a few others, which was understandable given Pena played well.

But 80% the members here wanted Tek to start, the reactionary thing regarding tek first games, was typical of this place.

You trying to sneakily claim a W, i see you.
I wasn’t necessarily speaking about you. But I remember not everyone respecting Flick’s decision at first
 

serghei

Senior Member
To be fair now the GK Position in this day in age has changed a lot in the last 10-15 years now. These days, Keepers are more adept with the ball and obviously sweeping as well.

The era of old-school Goal Keepering as in just being a Pure shotstopper and nothing else, is gone now. Goalkeepers have to be able to do more now.

I can see why Zubi, at the time, was so invested in bringing in Ter Stegen. He had the tools and potential to be our long term GK, being so good on the ball while also being a modern-day sweeper keeper.

I'm not sure what happened with Mats over the years. He came up Big a number of times in the League, but something just didn't click for him in Europe. He struggled to impose himself, and it just seemed like he couldn't save even weak shots.

Nothing happened with Stegen over the years. He was weak mentally and a cry baby since he came. His consistent level never was more than Gladbach level.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
That is complete nonsense.

He has been voted Barca player of year multiple times and seen as one of top GKs in Europe.

Every single player near enough.. including Messi.. had too many dips in Europe.
 

serghei

Senior Member
I never rated him personally. Couldn't care less how others rate him. For me he was never good enough. He made crazy blunders at Gladbach and made crazy blunders last season also. His progression in 10 years has been zero almost.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Others dont care how you rate him either..

You wanted Pena kept in this season also...

Of course. And I would give credit to people who rated players when I didn't. With Stegen, my initial impression has been proven right over the years.

Now maybe Flick is a miracle worker and will make this guy save some tough shots in CL. After 99 goals conceded in 83 games or so... god knows he needs to prove he's not a bum on the big level.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Of course. And I would give credit to people who rated players when I didn't. With Stegen, my initial impression has been proven right over the years.

Now maybe Flick is a miracle worker and will make this guy save some tough shots in CL. After 99 goals conceded in 83 games or so... god knows he needs to prove he's not a bum on the big level.

Not it hasnt been proven right at all... only your opinion which doesnt matter to those whos do.

As said all of Barca dropped too often in CL.

As said you wanted Pena to stay in this season..
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Mats. :lol: Of all the players to support your cause, you picked this clown who couldn't save a tough shot to save his life when the team depended on him.

Fake news.

Same MATS was best player in La Liga the year your wee fantasy Xavi won his one title.

Thank him.

You can wait for Scez mistake to claim you were right about Pena also.
 

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