10 - Lamine Yamal

Just like with Raphinha, not only the manager is to blame, but the players also. Raphinha for not knowing how to pace himself for the bigger games, and Yamal for throwing silly tantrums when he is rested in the minor games, or the games that are already in the bag.

That's why he should be rested. To manage load and arrive in the end stretch of the season with the key players fit and ready for the biggest games.

Next season, I'll have none of that, they can moan how much they like. Yamal should come off constantly in min 60 in games which are won or decided, and Raphinha, because he has no off switch and runs like a madman all the time no matter what's in stake, rested on the bench in more of the minor games.
 
serghei said:
Next season, I'll have none of that, they can moan how much they like. Yamal should come off constantly in min 60 in games which are won or decided, and Raphinha, because he has no off switch and runs like a madman all the time no matter what's in stake, rested on the bench in more of the minor games.
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Hate to break it to you but no chance that happens. Flick gave the keys to Yamal, now he can't take it back.
 
thestig said:
Hate to break it to you but no chance that happens. Flick gave the keys to Yamal, now he can't take it back.
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Well, then so be it. If you can't manage the minutes of the key players, muscular injuries tend to happen. Don't blame it on bad luck when the players suffering these injuries play the most minutes out of every winger out there (by a long way, we're talking about 1000+ minutes extra in most cases). If he misses the World Cup, or relapses at the World Cup, he can throw his Ballon d'Or dreams in the trashcan this season.

Nobody is going to win any BD for destroying likes of Oviedo and Elche. These awards are won by being fit and decisive in the most decisive games in the critical phase of the biggest competitions.

You either take time off like a smart player, by taking precautions and thinking long term, or you do it by suffering injuries. Nobody plays virtually non stop almost for 55-60 games a season. Muscular injuries like the ones suffered by Raphinha and Lamine are a typical sign of muscle fatigue due to overplaying. We're not talking about a bad tackle that injured your knee, but about players injuring themselves in silly ways doing normal stuff.

If the players suffering injuries have a bigger workload than similar wingers in Europe, it's on managers and players who don't manage their minutes well. If they have similar minutes, and our players get injured more often, then questions need to be asked to the medical staff.

As it is the case, the problem is the minutes our key players get. They basically aren't rested even vs 3rd division sides in Copa del Rey. The only way they get rest is if they get injured. This is a big problem.
 
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I feel a bit better about the UCL loss now, we wouldn’t have been able to compete without Lamine and with all the other injuries anyway.
It keeps happening every year toward the end of the season now, key players getting injured. You can’t win knockout competitions like that. There’s clearly a pattern here and the team needs to address it.
 
@serghei I agree 100% but I don't expect Yamal to smarten up neither I expect Flick to get stricter with him even if that was the best for everybody. I don't think even missing the World Cup would change it.

We saw it already with Messi but he was a much older when he got the status of untouchable with the coaches and even Messi wasn't as an extreme case as Yamal is. You never saw Messi playing against lower league teams in Copa, Yamal does. Messi would take a game or 2 of rest even in La Liga, Yamal doesn't. Messi would walk and rest during the games, Yamal doesn't as much... This can't end well, this injury was coming for a long time and I think it will only get worse with years. His ego will inflate even more and his body will be weaker with playing as many games for years.
 
As said, he's an adult now, he should be treated as one. If he misses the World Cup, it's 4 years until the next one. This World Cup would be a good chance for him to win a BD because Barcelona ain't getting CL title in the next 2-3 seasons imo.
 
We thought what? Lamine and Raphinha can put in 18.000 minutes together in 2 seasons at Barcelona without serious injuries? In a high press system? Hahaha.
 
Hopefully it's not serious but I'm affraid he'll force to play in the WC and then idiot DLF won't manage his minutes and this could turn into the next Pedri injury problems after Euro 2021 and missing Lamine for months over the next season or two. And that's not a good sign as we are as much if not more dependent on him as we were on Messi carrying his aging, crippled and overpaid amigos on his shoulders over the last few years of his time here.

But sadly it was just a question of when not if he'll get injured. He was clearly overplayed and there were numerous situations/games when he should have been rested. Flick clearly doesn't realize you usually pay the price for minutes players accumulates in October or December in April or May. And here we are now with like 80% of the team both physically and mentally exhausted. Thankfully we are in a good position in the league (and being out of the CL is also a blessing with current state of the team) so should somehow win it but bad thing is there won't be any serious rest for majority of the team during summer. So next season could and probably will be even worse.
 
Players didn't train for 3 days after Atletico loss. Lamine also missed more training as he travelled to win Mickey mouse Laures award
 
Barcaman said:
Players didn't train for 3 days after Atletico loss. Lamine also missed more training as he travelled to win Mickey mouse Laures award
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That's reactionary, Flick realized players are dead and gave them a few days off when we had no game for a week, nothing new.

What should have been done is preventing the team getting in this state by rotating more and better earlier in the season. We really fecked up this year (started in preseason already) and didn't capitalize on not playing in that glorified friendly tournament in Trumpland last summer when in theory we should be in a much better state than most top teams playing there but it's far from that.

And your comment about Lamine is not even worth a reply.
 
Without yamal & raphinha we are almost certainly losing against arsenal.

Without 1 maybe, 2 very every difficult
 
It's okay. If we can't close the title out with 9 point lead with 5 games left just because we lost a player, we don't even deserve that title, simple as.

Think Roony will do absolutely fine in this time. It's a great opportunity to see his true abilities as a starter for few games.

The important thing is he's there for the world cup. It would be a big shame and mental blow if he missed it.
 
It is what it is. Thankfully Madrid is so weak this season, that it shouldn't matter. We need 10 points in the last 6 games, if Madrid wins everything (which I doubt is going to happen anyways). But the clasico will be much thougher now. Hopefully Rapha returns for a few games at least. A good opportunity for the players to show they can win without Lamine.
 
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