11 - Raphinha

Are you serious? Raphinha has 17 goal contributions in 11 CL knockout games, 1.5 G & A per game played in a CL tie. What can Rashford do, except trip on the ball 1 vs 1 with the keeper?
 
This season...

If Rashford has more goals/assists in league and CL than Raph what would that mean?

Also adding assists for pens Raphina didnt even touch ball in is a bit much.
 
Craziest stat I've seen is goals conceded with Raphinha 0.9 pg, without 1.8 pg. Which just show how dependent Flick's system is in big games on hard, relentless pressing upfront.

We concede twice as many goals than usual when Raphinha doesn't play.

Some more "fun" facts.
With Raphinha vs AM this season: goal difference 6 - 1.
Without Raphinha vs AM this season: goal difference 2 - 7.

Yea he's absolutely fundamental to flick ball & for the team to play at its peak.

But like I said before he's had a very stop start season.

But he's one of the 3 pillars of the team.
 
This season...

If Rashford has more goals/assists in league and CL than Raph what would that mean?

Also adding assists for pens Raphina didnt even touch ball in is a bit much.

Even this season. 5 goal contributions in 2 CL knockout games. 2.5 G&A per game. Rashford has what? Some goals in groups on low pressure?
 
Even this season. 5 goal contributions in 2 CL knockout games. 2.5 G&A per game. Rashford has what? Some goals in groups on low pressure?

Again you are adding assists for pens he doesnt even get near the ball.. a bit much.

What does it mean if Rashford overall has more goals/assists in league and CL than Raphinha?

'Low pressure' but counting goals/assists v Newcastle when tie dead as opposed to scoring 2 away to Newcastle in group to help get in top places.
 
Again you are adding assists for pens he doesnt even get near the ball.. a bit much.

What does it mean if Rashford overall has more goals/assists in league and CL than Raphinha?

'Low pressure' but counting goals/assists v Newcastle when tie dead as opposed to scoring 2 away to Newcastle in group to help get in top places.

It means only one thing, that Raphinha had a problematic season with injuries. Otherwise, Rashford would have rubbed the bench in every single meaningful game.
 
So it means Rashford 'end product' been better in league and CL than Raphinha overall?

Not all meaningless games as like to make out either.. scored away to Atelti, assisted away to Real, scored twice v Newcastle away etc.

But lets count 'assists' for Raph when doesnt touch ball and gets taken down for pen.
 
To cut this short, for me, if we are playing tomorrow vs any top 6-8 side, like Bayern, RM, PSG, AM, and 2-3 others, there's two players who, if missing, would give us an impossible task to replace them: 1) Raphinha, 2) Yamal. In this order.

Everything backs this up.
 
Not a chance.

There is not a coach in world football that chooses to have Raphinha ahead of Yamal.

That would be Raphinha who has been one of Barcas top couple players in possibly one tie under Flick.. against a mid table Newcastle with injuries.
 
But lets count 'assists' for Raph when doesnt touch ball and gets taken down for pen.

Hell, obtaining a pen is even more important than an assist. Probably biggest contribution you can have beyond a goal. You're not making your case better with this one mate.
 
27 goal contributions in 31 games
In a stop start season.

With the obvious improvements in the team once he's playing tells us everything we need to know.

1.8 vs .9 goals concede is crazy work.
 
Again.. he missed majority of games v better teams in league and CL.

Also more than him missing in lot of those games also.

No coach anywhere rates him with Yamal for club or country.
 
But, at the end of the day, when comparing Yamal and Raphinha influence, you have to account that one is a kid of 18 year old with a career in front of him, and Raphinha is a fully mature player with 3-4 years left at the top.
 
And the 18 yr old is by far the better player.

The argument a few weeks back was that Raphinha was knackered and legs ruined by Flick last season...

Fair change when proven to be garbage spouted when not great.
 
In some aspects. In others, Raphinha clears him just as obviously.

Did Yamal score any goal this season in a big game that was not a penalty? Don't think so.

Overall far superior player and more important.

It isnt close.

No coach anywhere believes the nonsense that Raph is more important a player than Yamal.
 
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