14 - Marcus Rashford

MonteCuler said:
The other players we want to sign would fail even worse.

Rashford missed a lot of chances vs AM but to be completely fair, only the shot at start of the 1st leg was a fatal miss. Others were chances he fought well to get and, while he should have finished them, at least he got in those positions. He also hit the post from a freekick.

To me his only flaw is the lack of pressing. But we can deal with it. We already did this season. Much better than getting a backup who will press but unable to do anything on the ball when you need him.
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A bigger issue for me is that Flick didn't trust him at LW over Fermin in the return leg.

Agreed that for 30m you can do worse than Rashford. But luckily for us, we have other more pressing needs than a LW. Fermin can play there no issues if we don't manage to sign anybody.
 
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serghei said:
A bigger issue for me is that Flick didn't trust him at LW over Fermin in the return leg.

Agreed that for 30m you can do worse than Rashford. But luckily for us, we have other more pressing needs than a LW. Fermin can play there no issues.
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Yeah well if Flick doesn't rate him that's a different thing, we look elsewhere.

But I doubt Flick would take Abde over him, even with pressing.
 
You can't just "deal with it" when it comes to pressing in the modern game. We would get eaten alive by PSG if all 10 players or at least 9 players aren't pressing. Rashford is also not Mbappe, he doesn't score 40+ goals a season.
 
Like a another former United player, Memphis Depay, he can bang a golazo out of nowhere, but the ambition is really not there at a level high enough for Rashford to be counted on in big games.
 
Comparing apples to oranges there when putting Rashford and others in the same category.

Rashford is a 30m backup on enormous wages, a serious commitment for a side tight on FFP space even if back to 1:1.
 
MonteCuler said:
The other players we want to sign would fail even worse.

Rashford missed a lot of chances vs AM but to be completely fair, only the shot at start of the 1st leg was a fatal miss. Others were chances he fought well to get and, while he should have finished them, at least he got in those positions. He also hit the post from a freekick.

To me his only flaw is the lack of pressing. But we can deal with it. We already did this season. Much better than getting a backup who will press but unable to do anything on the ball when you need him.
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For me his inability to do the basics properly, is just as annoying as his lack of pressing. Against RM for example he lost the ball a handful of times due to sloppy passes, poor first touches etc.

I don't mind our attackers losing the ball trying to take on a man, attempting a thru ball or whatever, but Rashford always causes turnovers doing simple shit, frustrating as hell to watch, and risky against good teams that can then launch proper counterattacks (unlike RM this weekend).
 
MonteCuler said:
The only bonus with likes of Abde compared to Rashford is they would press.

But do you really exchange quality for pressing? Especially for a backup option?
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Abde is better than Rashford in everything except shooting and crossing. He's better at dribbling, pressing, close control and he earns less in a year then Rashford does in a month. Decision making and linkup is shit with both. They are both not good enough for a top club of course, I don't rate Abde but would much rather have him.
 
thestig said:
Abde is better than Rashford in everything except shooting and crossing. He's better at dribbling, pressing, close control and he earns less in a year then Rashford does in a month. Decision making and linkup is shit with both. They are both not good enough for a top club of course, I don't rate Abde but would much rather have him.
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Abde got pocketed by our own Hector Fort.

I dont want to hear his name as a potential LW backup. He isnt good enough.
 
Club is working behind the scenes to sign him. Apparently Flick gave the green light. Will probably depend on him how much he'll be willing to reduce his salary.
 
malvolio said:
Where is Hasan Salihamidzic when we need him?
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Since Flick screamed "Shut your face" to him in front of the entire Bayern team, I think he avoids him now. In any case, it'll depend on the complete package, if it'll be a good deal or not. He has strengths no other player in our team has, but also weaknesses we don't need.
I'm against a long term signing, as I explained a few times, but I acknowledge beggers can't be choosers and a player with this quality costs usually more money. So let's wait for the complete deal. Also it's not guaranteed we'll sign him, if his salary demand will be too high. Barca is in the driver seat here, not Rashford and especially not United.
 
I think Rashford will be fine to agree to a more normal salary reflecting his status as a rotation option.

If we try to sign him they need to squeeze Man Utd for taking less than 30m.
 
Khaled_a_d said:
He isn't though, Roony knows what to do with the ball once he makes a dribble, he also has the ability to put defenders at his back, to make effect of speed difference negligible. He isn't a master of it yet (Salah is one of the best ever in it, and in many cases folks confuse it with his speed) and if he improves on it, speed will only be an issue when we play counter attacks.
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What do you mean by this?
 
Loan proven a success. Also for him. Regained his mojo and back with England at WC.

And yeah, now everything depends on how much he is willing to cut his wages.
 
When he invariably fails once again in the CL K.Os next season, all his advocates at the club and the fanbase will regret having made his loan permanent. If his lack of pressing, work rate and finishing was lacklustre in a season where he was playing to impress, you can only imagine the levels when he's comfortably secure.
 
~Bedazzle~ said:
When he invariably fails once again in the CL K.Os next season, all his advocates at the club and the fanbase will regret having made his loan permanent. If his lack of pressing, work rate and finishing was lacklustre in a season where he was playing to impress, you can only imagine the levels when he's comfortably secure.
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This tbh
 
I would take another loan, not else.

United are in bad place, not much wants him and he is not cheap, and also he does not want many clubs.

They can play hard and stick with player that earns like 20mil euros who does want to play for them, or give him on another loan.
 
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