21 - Frenkie de Jong

We lost two games without him.
One we were down to 10 men.

Replaced by a B team kid seamlessly 2 seasons in a row.

Been out for a extended period for 3 seasons in a row, under two different managers and the teams level didn't drop 1 bit.

But he's a rolls Royce player, that is fans will tell you is fundamental to the teams success lol, they won't let facts get in the way.

That being said,good that he's back we need bodies at this point in the season & I think bernal is also injured.
 
It's not true that De Jong missing is not felt in the team's performances. I miss him in the bigger games. He's a very good player just a level below world class for me.

His movement and intelligence in terms of positioning are key in helping us mitigate Pedri's flaws also.
 
It's not true that De Jong missing is not felt in the team's performances. I miss him in the bigger games. He's a very good player just a level below world class for me.

His movement and intelligence in terms of positioning are key in helping us mitigate Pedri's flaws also.
Facts are what the facts are.
He's better than the alternatives we have in the squad now. Mainly due to age.

But when he's out, the numbers don't lie.

We've played big games vs Newcastle & atletico since he's been out and played well in all of those games.

But good to have him back
 
Facts are what the facts are.
He's better than the alternatives we have in the squad now. Mainly due to age.

But when he's out, the numbers don't lie.

We've played big games vs Newcastle & atletico since he's been out and played well in all of those games.

But good to have him back
we didn’t play well against atletico.

I actually thought we played a bit better against them in the cl game.
 
we didn’t play well against atletico.

I actually thought we played a bit better against them in the cl game.

Yea that game was a struggle. But we got the result we need.

Doubt he would have made any difference.

That was one of those guts over quality game after the international break, where we always struggle.
 
Atletico in league game was more or less their second string and down to 10 men for over half the game and Barca still didnt play all that well.

Of course Frenkie is a miss and Pedri is missing him.

Hasnt been great since back from injury and was poor again yesterday.

If we use the logic of what team does when not there.. then apply to league win under Xavi etc when Barca beat Real more than once without Pedri.

Doesnt mean Pedri wasnt one of best players.

Or look to last season and how many games Barca lost and were losing with likes of Pedri before Frenkie got fit.
 
We lost two games without him.
One we were down to 10 men.

Replaced by a B team kid seamlessly 2 seasons in a row.

Been out for a extended period for 3 seasons in a row, under two different managers and the teams level didn't drop 1 bit.

But he's a rolls Royce player, that is fans will tell you is fundamental to the teams success lol, they won't let facts get in the way.

That being said,good that he's back we need bodies at this point in the season & I think bernal is also injured.

Just nonsense as usual.

22/23 - Best midfielder and beat Real with likes of Pedri missing. Massively missed when injured in 2nd half of season and cost Xavi a double losing 4-0 to Real at home in worst home defeat in decades in Cup when out.
23/24 - Barca were top of league before Frenkie got injured and by far best midfielder in team at start of season. Ankle never really recovered fully that season even when back.
24/25 - Barca were 7 points off Real and barely won a league game in months before Frenkie got fit.

Dont let truth get in way though.
 
Just nonsense as usual.

22/23 - Best midfielder and beat Real with likes of Pedri missing. Massively missed when injured in 2nd half of season and cost Xavi a double losing 4-0 to Real at home in worst home defeat in decades in Cup when out.
23/24 - Barca were top of league before Frenkie got injured and by far best midfielder in team at start of season. Ankle never really recovered fully that season even when back.
24/25 - Barca were 7 points off Real and barely won a league game in months before Frenkie got fit.

Dont let truth get in way though.

2nd time in two season a Barca B player replaces without the team skipping a beat.

I know you & the fan boys where praying the team lost, sorry that didn't happen for yah.

Again.

Nice player to have in the squad though, but fundamentally important he is not, as his being out injured for an extended period for the 3 season in a row shows.
 
Aye like last season when with Pedri and Casado together Barca barely won a game in league in months and fell 7 points behind Real before Frenkie got fit.

'Barely missed a beat'.

Go cheer for Casado and tell us he is a top talent again.

Suits you.

22/23 - Best midfielder and beat Real with likes of Pedri missing. Massively missed when injured in 2nd half of season and cost Xavi a double losing 4-0 to Real at home in worst home defeat in decades in Cup when out.
23/24 - Barca were top of league before Frenkie got injured and by far best midfielder in team at start of season. Ankle never really recovered fully that season even when back.
24/25 - Barca were 7 points off Real and barely won a league game in months before Frenkie got fit.
 
Even if he's not 100% we should start him in Madrid, we can take a risk in our situation and we really need him now that Eric will be a CB and Bernal isn't ready.
 
One must be quite insecure/disturbed mentally that among the first things to do once the forum is back up is to devalue an important player of the squad who hasn't played over a month. All because someone wrote something remotely positive about the said player.
 
Identifying the FD fan club nice.
Over a month injured 0 loses 11v11 , he can't be that important 😉.

You know how his fan club would be milking that if it was any other important player in Midfield or attack and we had that record.

Just look what they were saying about raphinha a few weeks back 😂
 
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I’d rather make sure he’s ok than rush him back. I rather squad stay healthy for LL than risk losing more players at the tail end of the season.

It was always going to be difficult to win CL without Raphinha and FDJ
 
We need both De Jong and Pedri fit and on their A game for our midfield to function well. Garcia isn't close to De Jong. And Fermin, Olmo, these aren't even proper midfielders in Flick's system, closer to a forward role in reality.
 
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