Argentina

How far will they go in WC?

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I think the 2 Lionels had an argument/heated disagreement in the dressing room before the game. Messi didn't agree with Scaloni's tactics/gameplan. @soul24rage
Argentinians love Scaloni but if Messi said he doesn't agree those guys would lock Scaloni up in the cabinets and not let him go until he submits to will of the GOAT
 
This kind of article is why nobody take VC seriously

Sometimes they can point out to some really interesting trends in the media and make you think about some shit

Otherwise most of the time it is desperately looking for connections and coincidences... like in this article

"Both wore number 19 at Barca"... for real, what an obvious sign that this was all staged and manipulated by the illuminati

"Final played on July 19th" as if all WC finals except the Qatar one are not played around the same date (10-12 day difference) because they're all in summer

And these other arguments are all shit too. Argentina was bullied by a far superior side on the pitch and they weren't as motivated because they already have a WC and came here with shit attitude. Like they did the whole world cup really, just got lucky several times vs worse opposition.
I mostly agree. For me main thing about all these events is constant exclusive use of occult/satanic symbolism and allusions to human sacrifice. There've been hundreds of these in last couple decades, if all the music and movie industry is included. Message of the "elites" is quite clear - they are continuation of canaanite/edomite demon worshippers, who rape, torture and kill our children among other things, which Epstain saga all but confirmed.


Whether they rigg some sport events for their own amusement is insignificant.
The main weird thing about the sporting side is them sobbing Alba style, while they were all these super masculine warroors all tournament along and Messis sentence.
Somebody should ask him what exactly they should've "forget about" before entering pitch. Did all their families an relatives got killed in the plane crash or something? Grown manly men don't cry about inconsequencial shit, when they're about to enter one of the most important battles of their life.
 
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Pretty wild if he really said that. All the conspiracies about Argentina losing so far have been laughable, but this is a game changer.

He's essentially insinuating they were told to lose because they displayed a flag about Las Malvinas after the England game and they would be hurt physically if they won.

When you add it in with the ' Are you happy now ? ' from Messi to Ferran, and Messi basically deliberately missing the target in the warm up, it's all a little strange to say the least. :messi:
 
To all these conspiracy theories, I simply want to say this: If we consider such things and perhaps even believe them, we might as well not watch a single match anymore. What's the point of being so passionate if everything is ultimately rigged?

It may be true that the big teams are favored because FIFA and UEFA can market the top teams more effectively. But if we assume that a particular team is systematically favored, we might as well forget about football altogether.
 
Another talent that I'm excited about. He usually plays in the wings, but imo should be played deep in the centre of the field.


The one of the Argentines (Stephen "Kiki" Ramos, 17 year old LW) that I am excited about for the future. We have so many young technical left footers in the team and we need a fast, right footed, dribbling winger who has an eye for goal.

Definitely the profile that the national team lacks. One to keep an eye out.

This guy also made his debut in the U-17 under Placente

 
To all these conspiracy theories, I simply want to say this: If we consider such things and perhaps even believe them, we might as well not watch a single match anymore. What's the point of being so passionate if everything is ultimately rigged?

It may be true that the big teams are favored because FIFA and UEFA can market the top teams more effectively. But if we assume that a particular team is systematically favored, we might as well forget about football altogether.

Being sometimes rigged sucks but will never take away the joy of watching elite football talent, sucks more talent's being marginalized by managers for p&p.
 

Pretty wild if he really said that. All the conspiracies about Argentina losing so far have been laughable, but this is a game changer.

He's essentially insinuating they were told to lose because they displayed a flag about Las Malvinas after the England game and they would be hurt physically if they won.

When you add it in with the ' Are you happy now ? ' from Messi to Ferran, and Messi basically deliberately missing the target in the warm up, it's all a little strange to say the least. :messi:
Fake and stop being a looney

what he actually said:
"We gave it our all. For the second consecutive World Cup, we made it to the final. This time, though, it just wasn't our day. I'm incredibly proud to be Argentinian. I wish I could have tried to help the team out there on the pitch, but it wasn't to be. Thank you to everyone who supported us during this tournament..."
 
Argentinian is desperate for a winger tbh, it won't be bad if he stays there.
For me, he doesn't have top speed required for a Highest Level imo.

If he were to play at the wings, he would probably play as a false-winger role.

Someone like Kiki Ramos is someone that I do see being the type of winger that we desperately need.
 
Watched around 30 minutes of NOB vs Boca, some very ignorant and uninformed comments I can say based on those minutes:

Flores and Aranda are standouts for Boca. Flores is energetic winger, although I think his dribbling is basic. I can't see him reaching the top clubs,but I think he could make a decent career. Aranda seems to think a step ahead, he knew what to do with the ball so fast, without rushing it. I was impressed.

Guch and Rios were the best for NOB, good touch with the ball.

Both defenses and GK were mediocre, atmosphere was good, although I hoped for more, pace of the game was way too slow for my taste.
 
Watched around 30 minutes of NOB vs Boca, some very ignorant and uninformed comments I can say based on those minutes:

Flores and Aranda are standouts for Boca. Flores is energetic winger, although I think his dribbling is basic. I can't see him reaching the top clubs,but I think he could make a decent career. Aranda seems to think a step ahead, he knew what to do with the ball so fast, without rushing it. I was impressed.

Guch and Rios were the best for NOB, good touch with the ball.

Both defenses and GK were mediocre, atmosphere was good, although I hoped for more, pace of the game was way too slow for my taste.
what ignorant and uninformed comments?
 
To all these conspiracy theories, I simply want to say this: If we consider such things and perhaps even believe them, we might as well not watch a single match anymore. What's the point of being so passionate if everything is ultimately rigged?

It may be true that the big teams are favored because FIFA and UEFA can market the top teams more effectively. But if we assume that a particular team is systematically favored, we might as well forget about football altogether.
Everyone knows WWE is all about storyline, match results pre-decided and fights choreographed, but that doesn't stop millions watching it, talk about it and run podcasts over it. Who doesn't love Stone Cold, Undertaker, Shawn Michaels etc. Not saying all football is pre-meditated, but could be limited events.
 
The only major corruption I have seen regularly in football is a small club in central Spain called Real Madrid. To insist that the La Liga President, Head of La Liga Disciplinary Committee, Head of the Spanish FA and 90 percent of referees have to be Real Madrid fans totally unadulterates the competition.

What is even more nefarious is when those people aim to hide or lie about their allegencies to Real, as has happened by them quickly removing Twitter posts or lying that they support a different team.

Both things happened last season. A total banana republic.

Outside of that, in international football, there could be a vested interest to see the 'bigger' nations qualify. That extends to all bigger nations and no conspiracy of helping one in particular.

Indeed, the most nefarious acts of the World Cup benefitted USA ( Balogun ) , Portugal ( Ronaldo overturn and a goal ruled out by technology that has proven NOT TO WORK, and The Cable Guy England.

I can guarantee, without any hesitation, that nobody is sitting down in FIFA saying, when they already have their ' dream ' semi final, " Let's help such and such team win "

All 4 semi finalists had their own story that FIFA could profit from. Lamine and Mbappe. An England side winning for the first time since horse and buggy was the main mode of transport.

To suggest it was fixed for Messi to win is just toddler out of pram stuff.
 
Yep. The world cup was set up to anticipate the biggest teams fulfilling certain objectives and reaching the later stages.

Hence the KO times scheduling.

The only thing that did happen is Argentina, being far from their best, setting dubious decisions to get to the Semi's. After that it was all on them.

It was the same with Brazil (two pens versus Norway, the first with a foul that didn't get rolled back to), England, Portugal and USA.

Spain probably aswell but they didn't need it.

Basically the plan for eyeballs was these quarters.

France-Morocco
Spain-USA

England-Brazil
Argentina-Portugsl

After that slight nudges to certain teams, but let the best team win.
 
10 years late, but we are getting some right footed LW talents with the likes of Silvetti, Kiki and Flores. There's also Zeballos as well.

 
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