Loki
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It would be faster annulled before European courts than it takes for Ronaldo's sister to post an Instagram story.
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TomCat
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Why would it be annulled?
FCBarça
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No chance of a salary cap in European football, that's a conversation that can go nowhere - so pointless to ponder
Cost ratios are only realistic strategy but every country has different regulations, approaches, taxes and laws. Even when you look at PSR vs FFP it's two different rulebooks yet still one mess - PSR is a flimsy framework that City, who were the most transparent violators of PSR, still dragged this out in courts for years. Meanwhile, while the revenue stream is dead in Spain the financial austerity measures due to FFP were painful but showing they are healthy for Spanish football
If you want to start somewhere, start with PSR & Premiership - they have wrecked the game because they've got private equity billionaires milking the product & revenue irrespective of sporting project on pitch much less considering its fans. Great dilution of game, they went hard (we'll see on punishments) vs state owners but will they apply similar with the corporate malfeasance of the private equity gang running Premiership? Unlikely
Cost ratios are only realistic strategy but every country has different regulations, approaches, taxes and laws. Even when you look at PSR vs FFP it's two different rulebooks yet still one mess - PSR is a flimsy framework that City, who were the most transparent violators of PSR, still dragged this out in courts for years. Meanwhile, while the revenue stream is dead in Spain the financial austerity measures due to FFP were painful but showing they are healthy for Spanish football
If you want to start somewhere, start with PSR & Premiership - they have wrecked the game because they've got private equity billionaires milking the product & revenue irrespective of sporting project on pitch much less considering its fans. Great dilution of game, they went hard (we'll see on punishments) vs state owners but will they apply similar with the corporate malfeasance of the private equity gang running Premiership? Unlikely
Don Money Laporta Estruch
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Exactly this.
The whole point of being an organically owned club, which built up it's success through decades of hard work, marketing and innovation, goes completely out of the window once you forego all that by selling your ass to a rich foreign sugar daddy. Why are the Red Cartel allowed to take that short cut and not others?
The 2 billion net spend Utd have in the last decade has NOT been generated through shirt sales in fucking Vietnam, like Utd hypocrites want you to believe.
That spending would be entirely impossible without the Glazers. As would the 500m transfer window last season at Liverpool, without FSG.
The fact is that the lot of the cunts signed up for selling their asses to the highest paying foreign John and financially doping themselves up to their eyeballs and now the Red Cartel is upset that someone else did it better than them ???
A better example of ' Do as I say, not as I do ' you will struggle to find.
EPL could probably set a transfer cap rather than salary cap, but then it will never solve the problem as the clubs are all owned by soulless cunts who rather win at football than at humanity.
You say every EPL club can spend a max of 500m per season, but then all that happens is that they will either a) go the PSG route of loaning to pay the next year, or worse, paying off the books more than the actual fee. Aka, the Haaland de la Mbappe route.
You say every EPL club can spend a max of 500m per season, but then all that happens is that they will either a) go the PSG route of loaning to pay the next year, or worse, paying off the books more than the actual fee. Aka, the Haaland de la Mbappe route.
Loki
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Because of European free and equal trade/business/competition laws. If Uefa starts to restrict clubs, they can sue because Uefa is a private organization, that has to operate under EU laws. I mean they're allowed obviously to have some ffp rules, as they have now. But a hard cap, like it is in the US? Impossible in my eyes.
And there were already many articles about that topic, as it comes up every now and then and they said basically the same.
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Windhook
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American sports have salary caps and clubs are 3-4x richer than European football clubs in value. The explanation given is that is due to the exclusive type of those leagues. No relegation system.
Loki is partially right. The European Court of Justice ruled that FIFA and UEFA operate against EU laws and they cannot veto the formation of the European Superleague.
Loki is partially right. The European Court of Justice ruled that FIFA and UEFA operate against EU laws and they cannot veto the formation of the European Superleague.
Birdy
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I understand having a bond with the people working for 10 years, and wanting to defend his legacy.
But that can't be done on the basis of cheats and lies
This is moral issue of utmost importance. Do you support cheating or not?
He literally said in a presser a couple of years back that he will stop 'being their friend' if it came out they have been lying to him about the finances.
That's what came out yesterday
That makes me having 2nd thoughts. Did he know? Was he part of this??
It's why this scandal is funny. You'd say we have 10-15 fan owned clubs in England that were abused by a big mean sugar daddy club. In reality, all of their clubs are corporate assets controlled by various entities with big pockets.
More than half of the United fans on redcafe wished they were bought by Qatar just 2 years ago ffs.
Won't find bigger hypocrite morons than that lot.
Birdy
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Owners don't face different outcomes depending on the club they own.
They face the same rules they have to comply with.
Same don't want to comply to rules.
That's what this is all about...
You can't annul decades of building culture, identity, success on the pitch, titles, legacy, and eventually revenues (because you create fans worldwide) just because you want to buy success and titles overnight.
Especially if you are not just a businessman but a state
MonteCuler
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I don't know why the big PL clubs moan so much about this. They haven't been harmed. They could spend as much as City and they did spend, in some cases even more.
The ones who should really make complaints here and ask questions are the midtable teams. If City is able to bring sheiks to the club, cheat financially to get to the absolute top, be exposed for it and still remain at the top... why don't they do the same?
The ones who should really make complaints here and ask questions are the midtable teams. If City is able to bring sheiks to the club, cheat financially to get to the absolute top, be exposed for it and still remain at the top... why don't they do the same?
Midtable teams live off from selling players so they benefit from more rich teams willing to pay money for their merchandise. They have no reason to complain.
The ones who moan are the losers who got schooled by City.
Birdy
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'Midtable teams' is not a static concept featuring the same clubs.
Tons of examples. Look at where Brighton were 10 years ago, and where they are now...
All this was done though shrewd strategic decisions that allowed them to grow as a club.
That is the slow hard and painful way of getting bigger as a club
The easy is to get bought by a state, turn a blind eye to the rules, and buy success and titles overnight
MonteCuler
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How do you expect them to keep those players? That's not realistic. No one signs for a midtable PL team with intention of staying there for more than 2-3 seasons and leaving as soon as he proves himself.
Now, if they had unlimited funds and could buy 5-6 elite talents like City maybe those players would want to stay there a longer time and build something big.
Listen, there's no way in hell you tame City's owners to a slow burn rise to the top spanning decades of steady growth. So, you either take their money or you don't. EPL took their money, so they agreed to this.
Yeah, if they had those funds, and they manage to attract talent leading the project like Guardiola, then they would no longer need to sell. Manchester is a bigger City than Brighton though. The metropolitan area of Manchester has 3 million people.
The bigger clubs tend to be in the bigger cities. The buyer usually cares for these things. There's a reason the bigger clubs are established in the bigger cities.
GG1989
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Ofc he knew, Pep isn't dumb.
One might question whether he knew everything or only half of what was going on but he certainly knew the situation more or less.
Birdy
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No mate.
EPL did not agree to this.
As soon as everyone realized what is going on, there were FFP and PSR restrictions.
That's the exact opposite of 'agreeing to this'
Birdy
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His stance these days is telling.
He knew, at least the main contours of it, and he evidently gave his consent or else he would have left looong time ago
Sickening really...
I am so angry with myself that I once had him really high in my esteem