8 - Pedri
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Birdy
Senior Member
Don't disagree
Total-Football
Senior Member
His develoment and that of Gavi is a tale of two endings.
Don Juan Laporta Estruch
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He won't win the Ballon. If we sweep the trophies, they will give it to Raph or Lamine. But he will be on the podium.
Raph, Lamine, Pedri, Wales, Golf, Madrid.
In that order.
Raph, Lamine, Pedri, Wales, Golf, Madrid.
In that order.
Nello
Member
Was also more to underline just how much stats favour Pedri, even tho I don't think they do him justice as said.
It's not close in my opinion, still waiting for a @Temptation reaction tho. He was afterall the one who requested the stats.
Temptation
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DM vs CM/advanced CM. Some of those stats will always favour a more advanced midfielder.
Gravenberch has been more influential and consistent this season. Carrying the midfield of the best team in the world when his midfield partners Szoboszlai and Macca haven't been consistent. Pedri's midfield partners Casado and Olmo have been brilliant.
Is Pedri a better player than Gravenberch? Yes because Gravenberch was a total flop at Bayern and Liverpool pre Slot and Football didn't start this season.
Has Gravenberch been the best and most influential midfielder (including all kinds of midfielders) in the world this season? Absolutely. His consistency and impact on the team has been phenomenal. Week in. Week out.
The reason people on this forum aren't ready to accept this opinion is because Gravenberch was a dud before this season while Pedri was always good. Reputation tax. If Gravenberch was a big name player like Bellingham, we wouldn't even have this debate.
"How can this failed wonderkid possibly have a better season than our golden boy?!"
This season
Best Defender in the World: Virgil
Best Midfielder in the World: Ryan
Best Attacker in the World: Raphinha(although Salah is a better Footballer in general and very close this season)
Gravenberch has been more influential and consistent this season. Carrying the midfield of the best team in the world when his midfield partners Szoboszlai and Macca haven't been consistent. Pedri's midfield partners Casado and Olmo have been brilliant.
Is Pedri a better player than Gravenberch? Yes because Gravenberch was a total flop at Bayern and Liverpool pre Slot and Football didn't start this season.
Has Gravenberch been the best and most influential midfielder (including all kinds of midfielders) in the world this season? Absolutely. His consistency and impact on the team has been phenomenal. Week in. Week out.
The reason people on this forum aren't ready to accept this opinion is because Gravenberch was a dud before this season while Pedri was always good. Reputation tax. If Gravenberch was a big name player like Bellingham, we wouldn't even have this debate.
"How can this failed wonderkid possibly have a better season than our golden boy?!"
This season
Best Defender in the World: Virgil
Best Midfielder in the World: Ryan
Best Attacker in the World: Raphinha(although Salah is a better Footballer in general and very close this season)
MonteCuler
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Load of bs. Pedri has been carrying Barca midfield since day 1 this season. Casado is having a good season but far from brilliant, he cost us a few points in the league and heavily relies on Pedri. Also Olmo is not even a starter.
Nello
Member
Bit over the top to blame on ther respective positions innit? Pedri is part of a double pivot, not playing as a AM. This is part of the reason he's been so much more influential this season, he's playing deeper than ever before. If you check their heat maps you'll see it's not a big difference between the two.
Bit funny to blame quality/consistency among midfield partners when Olmo has been Mr. Injury this season and Casado is starting to lose his place in the XI. Just checked sofascore aswell, and Macca and Dominik both have better ratings this season than Casado and Olmo (Olmo tie with Dominik).
Also to be clear, it's not that Pedri has a few percent more through balls because he's a wee bit more advanced.
He has TWICE the amount of through balls.
Has completed SIX times more switches of play.
THREE times more long passes completed.
TWICE as many assists and xA.
TWICE as many key passes.
TWICE as many shot creating actions.
THRICE as many goal creating actions.
Again, more progressive carries, better dribbler.
He has 4 goals, Gravenberch 0. Sofascore rating is 7,52 vs 7,17.
This is an absolute slam dunk in terms of general passing ability and offensive output. Hard to pin it on him being a bit more advanced honestly.
You should never have requested a comparison of stats. All that's left to back up your claim is your own biased opinion. If Gravenberch is better at anything other than interceptions, there is no objective way to quantify it atm.
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
Claim Grvenberch has better stats - fail to bring any of it - write bullshit.
"T" account trademark.
Don't try to look smart while you are not.
Btw, Fermin has better "stats" than Gvrenberch.
jamrock
Senior Member
Temp is always too quick to proclaim, EPL players and English players the best in the world or best in there position.
Gravenberch is have a great season along with Liverpool.
But Pedri is not only better than him, but having a better season.
Since he dropped deeper, not deep.
Gravenberch is have a great season along with Liverpool.
But Pedri is not only better than him, but having a better season.
Since he dropped deeper, not deep.
Next will be eye test which Pedri also absolute
stomps on Grvenberch.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Haha he is better deeper and not as the most attacking midfielder as some usual folk claimed.
And yes he is deep and taking ball off defenders more often which suits the team and him with game on front of him more often.
Now trying to make out quibbled with word 'deep' when it was clear what was being argued for and against.
Usuals.
What was it again?.. 'I gaurantee Pedri wont play deeper in double pivot... we have three player who are better than him there.. Gavi, FDJ and Gundogan'
Sensational.
And yes he is deep and taking ball off defenders more often which suits the team and him with game on front of him more often.
Now trying to make out quibbled with word 'deep' when it was clear what was being argued for and against.
Usuals.
What was it again?.. 'I gaurantee Pedri wont play deeper in double pivot... we have three player who are better than him there.. Gavi, FDJ and Gundogan'
Sensational.
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