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yeah thats what I meant, I had draw then edited it to specify chelsea getting the draw, but without thinking changed to chelsea win lol

That draw just cost me £200. Who dived? *edit, mistake

Since Ronaldo first joined Utd I have watched every single game of his bar maybe 8-10.

He did dive, but by play I meant the build up to get into that situation. His movement and run. And come on man, it was a penalty. Lets not pretend they are hard to score. The worst player in the world still has a 50-50 chance, and most competent strikers its like 70-80% likely they'll score. I...

I noticed the final ball into Messi was almost always poor for some reason. The few occasions where he made proper runs were for nought- as the pass rarely made it him.

Bingo. i love what cesc is able to do, but he messes up often when crowded, especially when trying to keep-ball pass in the middle of the park. Since he is so direct, bringing him on when there is more space, and tired defenders, is perfect. He can exploit the space left with direct passes and...

completely disagree. without messi the score was 2-1 (a penalty is a penalty). busi's goal came from a combination of xavi's brilliance and good finishing. the penalty from a great neymar bit of play. i think its a combination of the two things. xavi and busi were more important than messi today...

yeah, and we've lost games were messi scored. A player beating 5 defenders and setting up an easy tap in had more contribution to the win than the player scoring the tap in. simple. not that leo scored a tap in, i mean that goal :wub: edit: i think we should stop, this isn't the thread for...

ive noticed this too. what adds to the frustration is that one of the best in the world (leo) at recieving throughballs, has started a habit of not making through runs, but hanging back during breaks or through-ball opportunities.

I guess we just differ on that. I think it's a combination of both this and who had the best performance/influence in the game (which is making a difference. Goalscoring isn't the only indicater of how crucial someone was to a game.) Also, his second goal was when we were already winning, and...

I agree. I was in shock some people are voting for him in their 3 player motm list.

He's got a point though, lol. I noticed his play was so, so different. Much less runs, really slow release of passes and general indecisiveness, when he did make runs (apart from the last 20) 9 times outta 10 he didn't try and make a proper run to receive a pass, but deliberately dropped back to...

Oh you guys. I'm thrilled Leo scored. His goal was amazing and some of his runs and passes were stellar. The final ball to him was frustratingly poor. But he didn't really get going until the last 20 minutes. to say he was MotM. o.O 1. Busquets 2. Neymar 3. Xavi Special Mentions: Leo and Pique

Thats not to say im calling him a bad player. his runs are brilliant, finishing is great, great heading, strong, pacey. But the quality of ronaldos overall game (snd yes ill keep saying it) is one of the most overrated things in football. Anyway, I really enjoyed his run last night, where he...

See here it is again. he is on fire with the amount of goals he's scoring (and well done to him)- but his performances and overall contribution to the game overall have still been meh. He was doing pointless easy tricks constantly last night, fucked up a lot of basic passes (which teammates...

XAVI (And I'm not shocked at all he hasn't been applauded more here. His subtle, but masterful performances are always forgotten or overlooked.) Iniesta Pique HM: Valdes and Neymar.

Whether or not he performs well is irrelevant to what the poster said. CR has this knack of having an average-to-below-average all round performance, but scoring 2 goals. I think it's THE reason his overall game is as overrated as it is. He has isolated moments in a game (the run for a goal, a...

I agree that its not just about talent (that things like consistency matter as well)- but I can't take anyone seriously if they try and suggest that both things matter equally, or that talent doesn't count for more than consistency, when deciding who's a better, more talented footballer...

In terms of his actual quality of football, and not just his stats and scoring exploits, then no. He's not even close to top 20 of all time. His overall game and overall technical ability isn't even close to being on par with Iniesta. But the few areas he does happen to excel in are very, very...

I've always been fond of Liverpool and like to see them do well. I'm a big ol' taig and Irish Nationalist so can't help myself; Celtic. Leeds United because of family, 'underdog love syndrome', the injustices they've endured courtesy of Manchester United. Hate. I think you've guessed it...