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No, I like the discussion. I think it's interesting. But you won't hear me cry about Ronaldo not winning it. I'm way over it. Been over it for a while now.

Did I say something else? He's not perfect. Lol we all know he can be a maniac sometimes with his ego trips. I'm not making any excuses for him.

Yeah, individual performances help win titles. What has that got to do with this trophy? I'm talking about CL, Liga titles. I don't care if Ronaldo will win Ballon d'Or or not. I mean, it sucks for him, but I want to see him do well at RM and help the team win titles. If it just so happens to...

Because he knows he's not gonna get it anyways. It probably bothers Ronaldo he didn't win it last year, but what can you do...Besides, personal awards don't bother me a lot tbh.

Yeah. And those 5 points reaaaaally make the difference.

Yes, but he, the same as Modrić btw, has been promised something. I understand why they don't want to let him go, but he has a right to be upset. They didn't qualify for CL plus they were offered a crazy sum for Bale. When you have 100 mil on the table for a player such as Bale, YOU TAKE IT...

No, I don't dislike the man, I just think he can be an idiot sometimes. He's done a tremendous job for RM financially, I just wish he'd do the same football-wise. I was quite happy with him this summer tbh. He bought great players, promised to renew Ronaldo, brought in Carlo who promised great...

Remember the whole "100 millones me parece mucho" bs? Ah Flo, you crack me up:VdB:

I respect your opinion, but I politely disagree with it, is all.

Ah man :VdB: If it only was an assist.

This is a forum, is it not? Besides, it's got nothing to do with me liking or disliking Messi. It's just a discussion I find interesting.

As far as I know football is a team sport. Imo the award should go to the player who was instrumental in his team's success. In this particular case it's Ribery. 2010/11 it was Messi. That's how I see it. I get that you have every right in wanting for Messi to win it, I just think it's not all...

Agreed. Jese is such a great young prospect, I'd hate to see him rot on the bench...He is similar to Ronaldo, but he's young and could one day maybe even take over, who knows...Ahh I guess we'll never know.

Hmm I associate trophies with individual performances, because that's what football is about - winning titles. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that one I guess :D

Not really. Insulting a player based on his appearance is mean imo. You can say he's arrogant, full of himself, whatever vibe you get off him, but calling someone scarface is not nice at all. He's not the best looking fellow, but that has nothing to do with him as a player or as a person and the...

Don't know. I think he does deserve it. Say what you want, but the man won a treble. Ronaldo didn't win anything (beside the Supercopa but who cares about that :lol: ) and Messi won La Liga. But both RM and Barca have flopped in the CL hard. This is nothing personal, just to be clear. I just...

Can someone give the exact minute when Diego supposedly should have gotten the red card? I want to see it.

That's true. He's playing differently than he has played before so obviously it will take time for him to accustom to this style. But judging by the preseason he can adapt to it. He's just not quite there yet. No one's really freaking out about him not having scored. Madridistas aren't really...

Tbf I'm not one of those :D I love Iker to death, but GKs are GKs and they have their own award. When you're competing against Ronaldo or Messi or peeps like that, it's a bit unrealistic to expect a GK to win the Ballon D'Or.

Oh. I think you guys misunderstood me. I said nothing about Barca and your refereeig. I just said that the ref in our match (RM-Granada) wasn't a really great one, and made mistakes on both ends. I'm gonna watch the match again tomorrow so yeah...that's what I meant.