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So lost, watch some of the comments. They derail from the GK performance argument just to make a definitive point regarding next season like we were on a crisis run or reached a deciding point from a club's perspective. If we are only speaking about GKs, that type of shit don't hold water &...

Debate has gone full retard mode lately, some valid points but isolated facts don't prove anything really for any of the GKs. I've seen a lot of stuff regarding planning for the future...do you see other areas in the team where management is planning for the future? Get Vidal out of the...

How the hell can we concede such a lame ass goal :lol:

Yea I think he is pretty much out of the race. AM has a real defense.

So you haven't, that's all I need it to know where you base your opinions from... And first statement is so wrong not even gonna bother to discuss. Experience is experience, last time I checked NT face competitions every year (local cup competitions, world cup competitions and qualifiers being...

You guys never really watched him playing for Chile, right?

The defense argument is weak af because it has been the same defense performance for 2 years: unstable & risky. Luckily they have improved at corners.

Yea, stats don't lie

Flavia If the switch happens & works for the benefit of the team, hell yeah why not

Yea but you are not getting it. Neither the fans, management or coach care about their personal ambitions. They care about Barca winning (Barca, not Bravo or Mats or anyone). Barca wins if the key elements are used in the right place & time, not because "I feel I should be starter" approach

Honestly, I think that Bravo plays La Liga because he had previous LL experience & Mats get the CL to roughen his skills.

This is where you should separate player perspective v/s team perspective. In a team perspective, there is no room for individual ambition.

I dont consider any of the GKs as bench, neither should they. They are playing La Liga & CL for Barca ffs, dream come true

I wouldn't place Pinto in a conversation regarding solid WC/more than average GKs, whether young or old

Pinto's level was the main reason...lets not drop the bar. Plenty of seasoned GKs play & are scouted/hired for big teams. It's probably the most sensible position when it comes to experience.

Why should he? He should be worried if his form drops, not because the other is training ahead. You understand this works both ways, right? Yea, can't quite grasp the conceptual talk about planning for the future. That happens when teams are on a transitional stage, which Barca is not. Or in...

Missing too many lately, hope he gets his form back

Great job today TS!

Good argument

He can be unhappy but he is not on the bench. A bench player does not play CL & Copa. If he's unhappy about not playing all competitions he can blame Bravo, not management. If Bravo keeps happening at this level he will be set to cups competition. In that sense his situation is WAY better than...