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Anyway, bedtime for me - it's almost 1 am and I am up early. Some echo chamber this. Feel free as fanboys to continue to delude yourselves that Lewy is better than Pele and R9 because he 'plays in the more advanced, professional era' :lol: Nighty night.

Ignore function working a treat here (y)

I see I have upset two (maybe three) Lewy fanboys by extolling the virtues of past players. Ah well, such is life.

Some of you guys act like the 60s was the Cretaceous period. Yes football has changed, but a lot of players from then would shine and prosper in modern football (if given training to bring them to today's fitnesss tandards). Because they were geniuses at playing football. Equally, many players...

Glad we have come to an understanding on the first point - though the second point is not necessarily true either as there are so many other variables.

Again, if you want a discussion, please give me some arguments why Vinicius, Lewandowski, Haaland, Rashford, Lingard, Mbappe, Bellingham and Raphinha are better players than Maradona, Pele, R9, Best, Garrincha, Van Basten. After all, they play in the more advanced, professional era, so they...

Stop playing innocent. You didn't want a discussion. I have offered plenty of points which you have constantly refused to refute, so you clearly do not want a discussion (because you haven't got a worthwhile retort). You wanna push the idea that modern football is oh so amazing and old football...

You acted like modern football is the gold standard and incredible (it really, really is not, trust me), and even though you were diplomatic about it, it's clear you were implying old football is crap and old players do not compare to modern players. What you don't seem to understand is that...

What next? Semenyo is better than Ronaldinho because he 'played in a later, more scientific era'? Bruno Fernandes better than Platini? Courtois better than Yashin? Fuds. 'JustAnotherLewyFan'.

Anyway, instead of snide little straw men and deflections, answer the question. Have you watched any full 90 minutes before the nineties? To come to the conclusions you have? I have watched extensively games in the 80s, and full games from the 70s and 60s too, and even a few from the 50s. Plus...

And again, tell me again how Jesse Lingard is better than George Best because he 'played in the more professional, scientific era'...because that is what you imply with blanket statements like players are better now.

Actually I have. I seen plenty of him in the Bundesliga. Mainly because I loved watching Robben. And I have complimented him in this thread. But I won't accept claims he's better than Romario or Gerd Muller. It's a false premise you put forward, because I could easily watch Lewy play for Bayern...

And, again, explain it to me - if modern football is so far superior to past football, are you saying that Jesse Lingard was a better player than George Best? Do you not 'get' that a player can be born a genius in 1946 and another player can be born mediocre (relative to the older player) in...

It's still a boring as fuck, lazy as fuck, modern fan, recency bias analysis. You acted like past football was rubbish, which couldn't be further from the truth. I would bet my last pound that you haven't watched a single full 90 minutes of any game pre 1990.

Also, modern football is fucking mediocre anyway. Too many people act like it's sensational, when there are mistakes galore and most games are boring as fuck to watch, Who are the potential all-time greats in this era? Maybe Yamal, MAYBE. Other than him, who else? Haaland? Mbappe? Vinicius...

That's just a silly way to think (though you're right that we shouldn't compare across eras). But clearly a player born in the 30s or 40s can be better than a player born in the 90s. We can easily tell for instance that George Best or Garrincha were miles better than Lingard or Rashford...

Another joker arrives. I gave an opinion - one that is very reasonable - talking about some of the greatest players of all time, and that dickhead posted Gosling smirking. He's clearly clueless about most of the names I mentioned and has never seen them play because he's probably only been...

Laugh it up pal. Clearly clueless about how deluded you are and what a fraud of a football 'fan' you are. Everything I and others have said about you is spot on. You aren't a real football fan. If you don't respect me enough to believe the criticism, then take it from DonAK.

I will just quote/paste in what @DonAK said to you in the Zidane thread. Everyone knows you're an embarrassing oaf who develops crushes on certain football personalities (and celebrities in general, see Alain delon) because of their 'looks' or 'razmatazz' (cringe) or 'swagger'. You don't even...

What an absolute bell. All those players have legitimate arguments. Just because you don't fancy Eusebio for instance, doesn't mean he wasn't better than lewy. Your cluelessness of and disrespect for the history of the game (and how you put down great players from the past to feed your celebrity...