10 - Lionel Messi - v1
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immaculately conceived
And what did we say?
evilhita666
Barçapocalypse NOW!
It's great to see he's getting back on track, still needs to work a little on his one-on-one finishing, but the two goals yesterday were very well taken, and his overall performance has great!
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FCB_Titi_LB
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"single handedly"
come on..that french generation was sublime. The whole team was great
Metaphysical
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puskas never made a major impact on a world cup.
kocsis, meanwhile, was earth-shattering in '54, equally prolific at club level, and isn't regarded on the same level as puskas at all.
so pop goes your theory.
I can't rank zizou alongside pele, garrincha, maradona, di stefano and cruyff. he's on the level below them (zico, baggio, kocsis, puskas, best, platini, maldini, giggs, etc.). the only player in the modern era who stood a chance of matching the top level guys was original ronaldo. poor guy had injuries deny him, though, which leaves him in that second group.
zizou was inconsistent in '98 and france needed a lot of luck, some granite-balled defenders, and a convinient epileptic fit/dissenting team doctor controversy to the best player in the world at the time in the 24 hours leading up to the final.
not that zizou wasn't majestic in the final, but my point is to illustrate that circumstance can greatly influence how a player can impact on the world stage (di stefano, brilliant club player, was shit on the international stage for all 3 countries he played for). hopefully messi's circumstances will allow him to succeed, as zizou's did in '98.
fair enough. but he was a great player is what i'm trying to say
VivaBarca
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Di Stefano didn't play at a World Cup. Neither did Marco van Basten possibly the best no.9 ever. Neither did George Best. Nor Eric Cantona. Ryan Giggs didn't either. Messi has already and scored. Even if he doesn't win it in 2010 or 2014 or even 2018, it shouldn't decry from his potential legacy.
diegomessi
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brilliant post
Cal-FCB
Wurzeltron
Agree with what Meta said. Currently Messi is still behind Zidane, as he is only 22 and you have to show brilliance over a period of time. I do think having magic moments at major international tournaments does play a part in your legacy. Even Van Basten, his volley for Holland immediately springs to mind, Zidane's headers in 98. Messi not having a moment to savour will mean in 20 years time people may not remember him so well as a name. However with the talent he has he could quite easily overtake Zidane. He doesn't need to win a WC, but if he continues around this level for another 6 years or more he has the potential to join the Maradona's etc.
It's hard to measure players from different time eras imo.
I wouldn't be sure that Zidane can't compare to Pele and such.
I agree though that Messi needs to show this consistancy for a few more years before he measure up to the like of Zidane. He certainly have the potential though, no doubt about that.
I wouldn't be sure that Zidane can't compare to Pele and such.
I agree though that Messi needs to show this consistancy for a few more years before he measure up to the like of Zidane. He certainly have the potential though, no doubt about that.
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