14 - Javier Mascherano

Leo10

New member
Mascherano out of position he sometimes presses too high as if he was a DM so Busi has to cover up.

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89Norcal

New member
I don't understand this Mascherano-criticizing madness! This semi-pointless signing you are referring to, was a stand out performer in a Champions league final,with the team that conidered the best Barcelona team in history! At some point last season he was ahead of Puyol and Pique in the pecking order..:shrug:

Yeah let me just be clear I was criticizing more his signing than him. Even with his defensive errors we knew he was being forced into a new position, and was outmatched by forwards alot because of his size.

I more had a problem with buying him in the first place. I think JM was excellent at Liverpool, but why we didn't sign a real center half like others are saying was beyond me. I was saying in the summer that we should just offload him because he just WASN'T a fit for the team. I don't know if his value has dropped.
 
Mascherano proves that a DM can't replace a natural CB. I dont have any new criticism for him which hasn't been said already. I dont know what is wrong with our management. What was the point in buying Song? We could have got Vertonghen and shifted Masch to being a backup for Busi. What's done is done. It cannot be unchanged. What can be done is giving Bartra more chances. Maybe some competition from him will inspire him. I don't think Masch can cut it as a CB. In the summer we must sell one of Song or Masch and buy Hummels or any good defender. Just hope Masch doesn't cost us more trophies.
Just imagine with Ter Stegen and Hummels we would be nearly invincible.

Agreed. Forget about an unbeaten season, with those 2, we'd probably WIN every game. Especially if we get Neymar as well (highly doubt we'll get all 3 at once, so we'll probably have to wait until 2014 to get him). I say buy someone like Hummels, then give Song and Mascherano 1 season to fight over the bench spot, with the loser getting sold next summer.
I do think signing Song was a good idea, we did need a backup for Busquets with Mascherano playing as a CB, though 19m was a little excessive for a backup. I would have signed a CB and made Mascherano the Busquets backup instead, but oh well. I definitely agree that there won't be room for both of them if we get a new CB though.
 
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DonAndres

Wild Man of Borneo
Despite the fact that he works hard and performs well throughout a match, he still is a huge liability. All it takes is one of his massive errors for the opposing team to capitalize and score a goal. And these errors are so huge that conceding is pretty much guaranteed. His positioning is off, he is slow, he dives into some stupid tackles, and he is not a natural CB. We need him for depth and as a backup but he should always be considered as a backup. Imagine playing a defensive line where both fullbacks are in fairly advanced positions even while defending and there is a huge amount of space left by Mascherano for the opposition team to attack in. In a scenario like that, Pique is the only defender who is covering the goal. That kind of scenario happens at least once or twice per game in which Mascherano plays and we always end up conceding from it.
 

raskolnikov

Well-known member
You guys shouldnt be so tough on him, remember he was our third best player last season.
Its unfair to completely blame him everytime we concede a goal.
 
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messi_xavi_iniesta

Guest
Isn't one of the duties of a defensive midfielder to cover a defender's spot if he goes up?

Masche does not go up, he stays left behind because he´s too slow. Plays like a midfielder in a CB position. Never seen such crazyness in a top club. These stupid decisions have already cost some trophies. 7 goals in the last 3 games. Outrageous.
 

Meitux

Active member
You guys shouldnt be so tough on him, remember he was our third best player last season.
Its unfair to completely blame him everytime we concede a goal.
yeah he was our third best player because he played good in some la liga matches.....when will you someones stop finding always this excuse?
 

oz187

New member
In our system any defender we get will face the biggest challenge possible. There's no guarantee that even the likes of Hummels wouldn't flop under the pressure of our high line. Mascherano isn't perfect but the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
 

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
Mascherano in that pic wasn't out of position because he was pressing too high but due to him botching an interception during the period of complaining over the stamp on Cesc by Weligton
 
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Noldorin

Guest
Mascherano needs to abandon his midfielder concepts and start thinking like a CB. If he can get some tips, even training, from Puyol and other experienced defenders, THEN perhaps he could be a good CB.
 

Meitux

Active member
Mascherano needs to abandon his midfielder concepts and start thinking like a CB. If he can get some tips, even training, from Puyol and other experienced defenders, THEN perhaps he could be a good CB.
i would be more pleased if he abandons CB....
 

Cule4life

The Culest
Mascherano needs to abandon his midfielder concepts and start thinking like a CB. If he can get some tips, even training, from Puyol and other experienced defenders, THEN perhaps he could be a good CB.

Why do we insist on teaching a DM to be a CB? It's clear it's not working. Just let the remainder of the season pass by and then get a good defender. In the meanwhile hope for minimum costly errors from him
 

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