9 - Robert Lewandowski

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BBZ8800

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Has looked physically tired these past weeks in the face. Don't know what's happened.

Old people do get tired really fast.

Honestly people won't want to hear it but he doesn't look like he is coping well with starting every few days.

On top of poor tactics yesterday he also individually looked tired and sluggish in duels with Militao, who often got the better of him.

Not as energetic as he was in the first games and could probably do with more rests.

There are 2 types of stamina:
1) single match stamina
2) accumulated fatigue stamina after playing 5-10-15 matches in a row

It is easier to be fresh in the 80th minute in your 1st or 3rd match in a row.
After you play 15 matches in a row, you are tired from the start of a match and you are dead by the minute 45.

Remember how even Arthur looked fresh when he played for us in the first few matches after injury or being benched.
But whenever he would play 7-8 matches in a row, his form and stamina would fall down by like 50%.

Our fans have seen him running nicely in the first few matches and wrote right away: he is a fitness freak, he'll be able to play at least 2-3 more years on the top level.

Slow down guys, his true stamina&fitness levels will be revealed now, after 10-15 matches in a row.
 
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BBZ8800

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And slightly offtopic: my impression is that currently there is very small number of users commenting on Barcaforum.
Some will blame trolls and moderation, but imo: 10 years ago, we were the best team in the world.
We had lots of very young bandwagon fans or Messi's fans. Our matches were popular, our players were popular, our forum was popular.
Today, we have Dembele, Pedri and Ansu, who are miles away from Pep's era, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta or MSN.

Now, without Messi and people who were only fans of him and not Barca + without bandwagon fans = you can really see the difference in the number of posts/debates/users.
 

Andresito

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And slightly offtopic: my impression is that currently there is very small number of users commenting on Barcaforum.
Some will blame trolls and moderation, but imo: 10 years ago, we were the best team in the world.
We had lots of very young bandwagon fans or Messi's fans. Our matches were popular, our players were popular, our forum was popular.
Today, we have Dembele, Pedri and Ansu, who are miles away from Pep's era, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta or MSN.

Now, without Messi and people who were only fans of him and not Barca + without bandwagon fans = you can really see the difference in the number of posts/debates/users.

In your opinion, is this a good or bad thing?
 
Honestly people won't want to hear it but he doesn't look like he is coping well with starting every few days.

On top of poor tactics yesterday he also individually looked tired and sluggish in duels with Militao, who often got the better of him.

Not as energetic as he was in the first games and could probably do with more rests.

He never really had stamina problems going many matches in a row. Just look like it when he feels that the match does not work like he wants it.
 

Rassvet

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I'm getting Ronaldo at Juve vibes now where an aging attacker leaves a great setup for a new challenge and does his part but gets let down by his manager, teammates, and the club's sporting department.

Like Ronaldo, he should have overlooked the ego slight from his previous club and stayed with Bayern.
 

KingLeo10

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:lol: I don't think I've seen a decline in a troll as steep as Rassvet's. That lacks any semblance or subtlety or cleverness :lol:
 

te amo barca

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And slightly offtopic: my impression is that currently there is very small number of users commenting on Barcaforum.
Some will blame trolls and moderation, but imo: 10 years ago, we were the best team in the world.
We had lots of very young bandwagon fans or Messi's fans. Our matches were popular, our players were popular, our forum was popular.
Today, we have Dembele, Pedri and Ansu, who are miles away from Pep's era, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta or MSN.

Now, without Messi and people who were only fans of him and not Barca + without bandwagon fans = you can really see the difference in the number of posts/debates/users.

Barca still has a shitton of social media presence on YouTube and Instagram. I think it's a generational thing, forums are just not as popular these days as they used to be in the past. Real Madrid forums are also not that active even though they just won a bunch of CLs. It seems that only PL club forums are bustling with life, might have something to do with England
 

Bran the Greenseer

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I feel like since Barca hasnt had a proper 9 in a long ass time (I don't really count suarez since he has operated many times on the wings / as a wide forward) but unlike a false 9 like Messi in his prime here, straight up 9's needf good service in order to do things...
 

BBZ8800

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In your opinion, is this a good or bad thing?

I don't have an opinion.
Just an impression how Barca's social impact is way lesser than before.

Barca still has a shitton of social media presence on YouTube and Instagram. I think it's a generational thing, forums are just not as popular these days as they used to be in the past. Real Madrid forums are also not that active even though they just won a bunch of CLs. It seems that only PL club forums are bustling with life, might have something to do with England

Teens are fickle.

My first favorite club when I was like 7-8 years old was Ac Milan.
Why?
Because when I watched CL finals in 1989 and 1990, Ac Milan was the winner.
And every kid wants to cheer for the best side out there.
So, Milan (Van Basten, Gullit, Rijkaard) weas my first love. Maybe this is why I am always leaning towards strong, tall, more result oriented football than Barca's fans. (The same as how Pep's football flows in majority of our fan's blood).
During the 90s due to Romario, Stoichkov and R9, I started to love Barca, even though I still also loved Milan.

But hear this: as Ac Milan was dying in late 90s and early 00s, compared to their glory days = I moved to Barca as my no1.
But then during Gaspart's days, since Barca was sooo bad (something like today) and there wasn't La Liga matches in my country back then (only Seria A and EPL), so I had a short fling with AS Roma around 1999-2003 when they had young Totti, Batistuta and Cafu.
But then when Ronnie came to Barca, I moved back to Barca's camp.

I guess that today's teens are even more fickle since they have even more options/streams/matches/favorite players/social media than we do.

In that sense:
1. we were on top of the world. We are around the 10th place today in strength probably (in the last few years).
2. we had GOAT Messi and ultrapopular Messi-Cr7 rivalry. They are both gone, we don't have that rivalry anymore
3. we had MSN and Neymar, who was quite popular in Brazil and among kids. He was supposed to be the next big thing, and majority of 6 year old kids in my area back then had a jersey of either Messi, Cr7 or Neymar. We don't have that anymore.
Today I see jerseys of Neymar, Mbappe and Haaland. Or some old Barca's Messi jerseys. No one, for example wears: Dembele or Fati in my country.
4. about social media on Instagram and similar, sure, Barca surely have millions of followers, from the past. But I guess the trends of growth would show that City, Psg, Real or even Arsenal/Man Utd surely had bigger growth than Barca in the last 2 years.
I mean, when you look at it from the outside, there is absolutely nothing interesting at Barca currently.
When Instagram or Facebook offer me random football reels, it is always: Messi from the past, CR7 from the past, R9 from the past. Or: Haaland, Mbappe (for some reason, I don't want to step into racism territory, but it seems that Mbappe is by far the most popular footballer among black people), Grealish, jokes about Maguire. That's it.
I don't know when was the last time when I have seen a reel or a joke/troll football post about Barca.

This is why we bought Lewa. To bring back the relevancy. But he is extremely old and 13 year old kids love younger crazy dudes with crazy haircuts and jokes, like Haaland, Mbappe and Neymar. 13 year olds are not impressed by 34 year old Polish granny with a normal haircut and without any tattoos.

Barca was as equally as boring/irrelevant pre-Ronaldinho.
Then we got back star power, beautiful play and top results. And it continued with Messi.

And again, today: we don't have any star power, pop-stars/teen idols. Our football is meh and our results are atrocious.
Remember how I changed clubs as a teen based on their popularity. And then ask yourself: how many 13 year olds from Nigeria or India will follow Barca after 8:2 vs Bayern and 2 straight group stage KOs.
Kids want winners and idols. Fati, Dembele and Pedri are not their idols and heroes.
Haaland and Mbappe are.
 
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