Antoine Griezmann
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Kul_z
Senior Member
Yes, because valverde clearly plays on the wings
evilhita666
Barçapocalypse NOW!
Okay, I don't like to say this, but he has to deliver now! Coutinho is gone, Suárez is injured, Dumbele is also injured and Messi is coming off an injury and has no match fitness... So he is basically our only real attacking option even if it sucks for him to be so early in the season when he hasn't adjusted yet...
He said he spoke on the pitch, now it is time to do so!
He said he spoke on the pitch, now it is time to do so!
You have to be kidding ? Him and whom ? Plus, Messi and Griezmann are both basically support strikers. What a mess !!!
JerseyAddict
Well-known member
It is time for Griezz to adapt and put his boots where his mouth was when he "lamented" about how BdO should have been his... bla bla bla...
BBZ8800
Senior Member
I am starting to think that Barto is the biggest problem of our club.
He doesn't know too much about football and his sporting directors are horrible.
He can say that he won lots of titles, but he had Messi in a team all the time.
Remove Messi from our team and we would have only a bunch of horrible, bad fits and overpriced transfers and not too many titles.
During Laporta, the only horrible fit was Gudjohnsen.
But even then, Laporta wanted Henry, a sporting director Begiristain wanted Forlan and Rijkaard wanted Gudjohnsen.
So, it was a bad decision by a coach, not by sporting directors.
Then, in the last few years at Barca we had:
Fabregas, what is his position?
Denis, his position doesn't exist here.
Coutinho, his position doesn't exist here.
Griezmann, his position doesn't exist here.
Dembele, his football style doesn't fit here.
Barto:
1. Has horrible transfers
2. He is picking bad sporting directors
3. La Masia has declined
4. He is picking bad coaches
5. He is giving fat long contracts to 30 years old players
6. He is buying fancy players to please casual fans and win the elections (Arda, Coutinho, Dembele, Neymar 2nd spell)
Only Messi is saving his ass and his horrible sporting project.
Remove Messi and we would be today like Gaspart's Barca.
He doesn't know too much about football and his sporting directors are horrible.
He can say that he won lots of titles, but he had Messi in a team all the time.
Remove Messi from our team and we would have only a bunch of horrible, bad fits and overpriced transfers and not too many titles.
During Laporta, the only horrible fit was Gudjohnsen.
But even then, Laporta wanted Henry, a sporting director Begiristain wanted Forlan and Rijkaard wanted Gudjohnsen.
So, it was a bad decision by a coach, not by sporting directors.
Then, in the last few years at Barca we had:
Fabregas, what is his position?
Denis, his position doesn't exist here.
Coutinho, his position doesn't exist here.
Griezmann, his position doesn't exist here.
Dembele, his football style doesn't fit here.
Barto:
1. Has horrible transfers
2. He is picking bad sporting directors
3. La Masia has declined
4. He is picking bad coaches
5. He is giving fat long contracts to 30 years old players
6. He is buying fancy players to please casual fans and win the elections (Arda, Coutinho, Dembele, Neymar 2nd spell)
Only Messi is saving his ass and his horrible sporting project.
Remove Messi and we would be today like Gaspart's Barca.
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Congrats, you just realized what the cause of our problems is.
I wouldn t say, that our transfers are horrible, i d put the "bad coach" on the top of your list with wide margin to the no. 2 spot.
1. Management -->2. Coach---> the other points are consequences
A good coach would offset issues like bad sporting directors or decline of home grown players or how we deal with over the hill players and new signings.
fergus90
Senior Member
Hit the nail on the head with this post. Bartomeu is out of control to be honest and completely trusts the wrong people. Recently he's tried to save face by bringing in Abidal,Kluivert and Valdes.
We have no real system now, blow millions on expensive attackers whilst other positions have been left to suffer. Although despite the millions it's still Messi-dependence.
I hope people see sense and vote for a new board in 2021.
te amo barca
Blaugrana al vent
you forgot the most important thing. He appointed EV.
MTL_Barca
Well-known member
Not Barto alone as i'm sure there are other people that influence these decisions but yeah the board is the big problem. What isn't surprising, i mean they are responsible for everything including transfers and the terrible coach they refuse to sack so if anybody is to blame it's them.
Key would be a competent sporting director and getting a good coach. I don't think the president has to be a genius that can do all by himself, it's more important to surrend yourself with people that know what they are doing in that position but it looks like it's the exact opposite for Bartomeu. Laporta had Txiki and they hit the jackpot by promoting Pep, Barto is already at sporting director number 3 (or 4? can't even remember) as they get sacrificed every few years and fell in love with Valverde
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It s ironic that we aim to get the best players of "certain type", but we don t have the same policy when it comes to other staff.
A club like Barca should aim to have the best coaches in all age levels, best sporting directors, best physios, supporting staff as well. It s a income making policy. If you employ best people, they will
bring you the most success and money.
I guess there is a lot of politics involved in the club structure, which is why we have to deal with compromises like Valverde.
A club like Barca should aim to have the best coaches in all age levels, best sporting directors, best physios, supporting staff as well. It s a income making policy. If you employ best people, they will
bring you the most success and money.
I guess there is a lot of politics involved in the club structure, which is why we have to deal with compromises like Valverde.
JohnN
Senior Member
It feels like we are stuck in a formation (4-3-3) just for the sake of it, without having the players to play it, or a plan to implement any tactics or combinations.
We don't even play the 4-3-3 as we used to anyway, we just put the players there and hope for the best (Messi creating, assisting and scoring OR Suarez occasional solo goal OR Rakitic rare long strike OR, last but not least, fan favourite OWN GOAL).
It is also evident that the thinking behind all recent transfers is: "What is the most expensive thing we can buy today?"
It is true what you say:
When we buy players, very expensive ones I might add, we should create a position and style to accommodate them. It's not like we have a defined style like in the Pep era. It wouldn't be sacrilegious to at least something new.
For example, when we bought Coutinho and Dembele, we should adapt and evolve the system to incorporate them. Same with Griezmann. Why does it have to be the same 4-3-3 every single time.
Coutinho is neither Iniesta nor Neymar. Try to play him as a n10.
Maybe try to play direct football with faster long balls from Rakitic and Busquets to the wing with Dembele.
I'm no football tactician, it is not my job to be one and figure this out.
But, that's why we have sporting directors and a coach. They have to figure out what kind of football they we to play, what kind of players we already have, which of them are not needed, what kind of players need to be brought and how to use that squad efficiently.
We don't even play the 4-3-3 as we used to anyway, we just put the players there and hope for the best (Messi creating, assisting and scoring OR Suarez occasional solo goal OR Rakitic rare long strike OR, last but not least, fan favourite OWN GOAL).
It is also evident that the thinking behind all recent transfers is: "What is the most expensive thing we can buy today?"
It is true what you say:
When we buy players, very expensive ones I might add, we should create a position and style to accommodate them. It's not like we have a defined style like in the Pep era. It wouldn't be sacrilegious to at least something new.
For example, when we bought Coutinho and Dembele, we should adapt and evolve the system to incorporate them. Same with Griezmann. Why does it have to be the same 4-3-3 every single time.
Coutinho is neither Iniesta nor Neymar. Try to play him as a n10.
Maybe try to play direct football with faster long balls from Rakitic and Busquets to the wing with Dembele.
I'm no football tactician, it is not my job to be one and figure this out.
But, that's why we have sporting directors and a coach. They have to figure out what kind of football they we to play, what kind of players we already have, which of them are not needed, what kind of players need to be brought and how to use that squad efficiently.
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