xavi_the_Boss
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Arda Turan and Vidal will both be here from the start of the season and also have a proper pre season.
Arda Turan
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serghei
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And we could form a better opinion on them as Barca players. A serious club can't form that opinion in 4-5 months, unless it's a player so obviously inferiour, like Douglas for example. Some fans here realised Arda Turan is not good for Barca after 4 games.
You can't actually know that it's his lack of ability that's causing him to under perform in such a short time. Could be many factors involved. I'd say his ability as a footballer is the only thing that's certain about him. His success or failure at Barcelona will depend on how well he adapts to a totally different style than he was used with at Atletico.His ability to adapt is in question for me. His footballing ability is not. If you think every player that doesn't work for a team has questionable ability, than you should also admit Di Maria is not a great player for example. Or Felipe Luis is not a great LB because he failed to even make the team at Chelsea.
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And we could form a better opinion on them as Barca players. A serious club can't form that opinion in 4-5 months, unless it's a player so obviously inferiour, like Douglas for example. Some fans here realised Arda Turan is not good for Barca after 4 games.
His ability to adapt is in question for me. His footballing ability is not. If you think every player that doesn't work for a team has questionable ability, than you should also admit Di Maria is not a great player for example. Or Felipe Luis is not a great LB because he failed to even make the team at Chelsea.
Players in Simeone's highly defensive system makes many players look better on the surface than they are. He was just a cog in the machine at Atletico and replacing a player like him with another one is easy. I was against his transfer all along and clearly in the minority here, as I didnt think he was anything special in Atletico and his price for what we would get was ridiculous. I will be happy if I am proven wrong.
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
Arda is already player on the team ,and he wants to stay here while the coach believe on him
We can argue about giving younger players chance if there is an acceptable offer from somewhere else that Arda is open to it .but for now the point of giving other player a chance is mute tbh since this guy have 4 more years in his contract
Vlom
Previously known as Mehssi
3 years contract for a 21 year old Neymar, 5 years for 29 Arda ... this board is really something else.
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
Neymar signed 5 years IIRC .he is still in his 1st contract ,isn't he?
So we're probably stuck with Arda on huge money until he's 34 which impacts on what we can spend on transfers and wages.
We also gave Verma a massive 5 year contract even though he was injured when we signed him and now he'll soon be 31 having hardly played in 2 years. It really boggles the mind. Why on earth was it necessary to give a guy like Verma such a deal?
CuleLife4Life
Active member
Holy sht, I had no idea Arda was 29. I thought he just turned 28 or was about to. Why is there no planning when it comes to these things?
Total-Football
Senior Member
shit is depressing.. we are not well run financially . everyone has a huge contract even those who contribute nada
El Flaco
Well-known member
Arda's interview with FourFourTwo
You joined Barcelona last summer but couldn't play during your first seven months at the club because of their transfer embargo. How did your deal with that disruption?
When I felt any doubt, I just thought about my childhood, because Barça is my dreamclub. To wear this shirt, to become friends with Andres Iniesta, Lionel Messi, Luis Suarez, Neymar... I had good motivation to wait and to be patient. I have been playing 40 to 50 games every season for a long time, so I spared some time just fo myself. There were a couple of books I'd been meaning to read, and Luis Enrique sometimes gave me three or four days off to get out and learn the city. There were a couple of downsides to my situation but I turned them into positives.
Why didn't you go out on loan?
Barcelona made a huge investment in me and I didn't want to disrespect that. If I had gone to another team on loan, I could have got injured, and that wouldn't have been fair to the club. I wanted to show my gratitude.
You also had the strange situation that the deal was dependent on Barça's presidential election. You could have gone back to Atletico Madrid if Josep Maria Bartomeu had lost. Were you concerned?
No, because Luis Enrique wanted me and that was all that mattered. Josep Maria Bartomeu was also very nice, so I had no hesitation or doubt.
Did you feel like an outside during the long wait for your Barcelona debut, or did it help that Aleix Vidal, who had arrived from Sevilla, was in the same boat?
Aleix is a bit younger than me so I needed to help him overcome the situation, and we became very good friends. We trained together when the team had a game. I didn't feel like an outsider, as Luis Suarez went through a similar thing with his ban so he shared his experience with me. Every player helped out.
You finally played in January, then in March you scored your first goal for the club, against Rayo Vallecano. How did that feel?
It was our fifth goal in that game but it meant so much to me. I had been dreaming of playing for Barça and it was a great feeling after six months without a single game. Barcelona are the biggest club in the world and their style is perfect for me. At Galatasaray and Atletico Madrid there were fewer spotlights on me; Barcelona is the world's best club so there are millions of spotlights here, but I'm experienced enough not to feel any pressure. I used to be a good player but after coming to Barcelona I started to see myself as a more of a complete footballer.
How does the training compare between Luis Enrique and your former coach Diego Simeone?
I learned so much from Simeone. I used to think defending was all about chasing the other team's full-back for 90 minutes, but he taught me the importance of the core, and helped me to improve the positional aspect of my game. His style was more defensive and strict, so training was much heavier. Luis Enrique has a different approach. We always use the ball at training, even when we're working on conditioning. He wants us to always be comfortable with the ball at our feet. It's much more fun!
Are Messi, Suarez and Neymar the greatest front three in history?
I don't know if they are the best but I can say they are one of the best. You give the ball to them and they change the scoreboard in blink of an eye! It's almost impossible to take the ball away from their feet. They have no complexes and they are constantly making jokes in the dressing room. We're like a family.
As captain of Turkey, are you looking forward to facing some of that family at Euro 2016, with Spain and Croatia in your group?
We've been making lots of jokes about it at Barcelona since the draw. I'll swap shirts with Sergio Busquets after the Spain game. But they know that we're a tough team and that we won't step back, no matter how strong they are. Ivan Rakitic and Mario Mandzukic, my former Atletico Madrid team-mate, are also very excited. I think it's an entertaining group as well as tough one.
Turkey reached Euro 2016 as the best third-placed team. Was it complicated trying to work out whether you'd qualified or not?
Before the final game, [coach] Fatih Terim's daughter texted him about our possible play-off opponents, but he replied: "No need - we will qualify directly!" Everbody said we did it by luck, but we won all of our last three games without conceding. We all believed in ourselves. Qualifying ahead of the Dutch gave us huge confidence. There are inexperienced players in our squad, so they needed that. We may not have many names known worldwide, but football is not an individual sport. Messi is the best player in the world, but even he's not strong enough to help Argentina win something. If we realise that we're much stronger as a team, you might see some surprises at the Euros. We're not afraid of anyone.
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/turan-barca-my-dream-club-so-i-had-good-reason-be-patient
When I felt any doubt, I just thought about my childhood, because Barça is my dreamclub. To wear this shirt, to become friends with Andres Iniesta, Lionel Messi, Luis Suarez, Neymar... I had good motivation to wait and to be patient. I have been playing 40 to 50 games every season for a long time, so I spared some time just fo myself. There were a couple of books I'd been meaning to read, and Luis Enrique sometimes gave me three or four days off to get out and learn the city. There were a couple of downsides to my situation but I turned them into positives.
Why didn't you go out on loan?
Barcelona made a huge investment in me and I didn't want to disrespect that. If I had gone to another team on loan, I could have got injured, and that wouldn't have been fair to the club. I wanted to show my gratitude.
You also had the strange situation that the deal was dependent on Barça's presidential election. You could have gone back to Atletico Madrid if Josep Maria Bartomeu had lost. Were you concerned?
No, because Luis Enrique wanted me and that was all that mattered. Josep Maria Bartomeu was also very nice, so I had no hesitation or doubt.
Did you feel like an outside during the long wait for your Barcelona debut, or did it help that Aleix Vidal, who had arrived from Sevilla, was in the same boat?
Aleix is a bit younger than me so I needed to help him overcome the situation, and we became very good friends. We trained together when the team had a game. I didn't feel like an outsider, as Luis Suarez went through a similar thing with his ban so he shared his experience with me. Every player helped out.
You finally played in January, then in March you scored your first goal for the club, against Rayo Vallecano. How did that feel?
It was our fifth goal in that game but it meant so much to me. I had been dreaming of playing for Barça and it was a great feeling after six months without a single game. Barcelona are the biggest club in the world and their style is perfect for me. At Galatasaray and Atletico Madrid there were fewer spotlights on me; Barcelona is the world's best club so there are millions of spotlights here, but I'm experienced enough not to feel any pressure. I used to be a good player but after coming to Barcelona I started to see myself as a more of a complete footballer.
How does the training compare between Luis Enrique and your former coach Diego Simeone?
I learned so much from Simeone. I used to think defending was all about chasing the other team's full-back for 90 minutes, but he taught me the importance of the core, and helped me to improve the positional aspect of my game. His style was more defensive and strict, so training was much heavier. Luis Enrique has a different approach. We always use the ball at training, even when we're working on conditioning. He wants us to always be comfortable with the ball at our feet. It's much more fun!
Are Messi, Suarez and Neymar the greatest front three in history?
I don't know if they are the best but I can say they are one of the best. You give the ball to them and they change the scoreboard in blink of an eye! It's almost impossible to take the ball away from their feet. They have no complexes and they are constantly making jokes in the dressing room. We're like a family.
As captain of Turkey, are you looking forward to facing some of that family at Euro 2016, with Spain and Croatia in your group?
We've been making lots of jokes about it at Barcelona since the draw. I'll swap shirts with Sergio Busquets after the Spain game. But they know that we're a tough team and that we won't step back, no matter how strong they are. Ivan Rakitic and Mario Mandzukic, my former Atletico Madrid team-mate, are also very excited. I think it's an entertaining group as well as tough one.
Turkey reached Euro 2016 as the best third-placed team. Was it complicated trying to work out whether you'd qualified or not?
Before the final game, [coach] Fatih Terim's daughter texted him about our possible play-off opponents, but he replied: "No need - we will qualify directly!" Everbody said we did it by luck, but we won all of our last three games without conceding. We all believed in ourselves. Qualifying ahead of the Dutch gave us huge confidence. There are inexperienced players in our squad, so they needed that. We may not have many names known worldwide, but football is not an individual sport. Messi is the best player in the world, but even he's not strong enough to help Argentina win something. If we realise that we're much stronger as a team, you might see some surprises at the Euros. We're not afraid of anyone.
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/turan-barca-my-dream-club-so-i-had-good-reason-be-patient
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TornAndFrayed
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5 year contract ? Give him 5 more !
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