Are Refs to Blame for Barca 2nd Place in LLiga?

[xaviniesta]

we will be in Cibeles celebrating

 

[danumber10]

Messi was in the line of sight for the keeper and it is considered distraction , refer to the rules please
sorry if the keeper is now whiner like the rest of you here
There is nothing called the ref robbed us already , that's pathetic attempt to hide the main point which you are quite bad this season and this has nothing to do with the refs .
instead you wait for imaginary calls and disallowed goals , while the main issue is how did you end up being 3 goals down in the first place against a team you schooled 8-0 earlier this season
but why do i care ? we will be in Cibeles celebrating while you count on this excuse and do the same crap you did last summer in pre-season

next step:
UEFA global conspiracy to make Barca lose the CL

watch the space

ok let us assume Messi is offside...how does this change the fact that in the FIRST HALF the reff robbed us twice? the game changed from the beginning. Offside gol for Osasuna and disallowed goal for barca , THAT change the whole game. if it was ONLY this game no one would give a shit but it's been like that throughout the whole season. It's ridiculous. You can celebrate la liga as much as you want. It is pretty evident that the reffs are one sided . Even in Madrid's games. Like today, Sergio Ramos should have been red carded but NO only Levante player deserved a red. Look at how the reff help madrid and how they screw barca= villarato. Where 2 penalties are not given to Barca ( valencia) one penalty is not given to Valencia against Madrid. Where one Barca goal is disallowed (getafe) , one penalty is not given against Madrid. it is pretty obvious. against espanyol penalty not given to barca anyone?

 

[Flavia]

It's too much to ask for that a madridista sees or accepts the fact that rm has been helped a lot, and this season this is showing because of Barça's poor away form. They're probably used to it too. It happens every season. This season is more obvious because Barça is not steamrolling eveyone like in previous years.

 

[Metaphysical]

It evens out Meta (the ref calls ) as i said Tello goal shouldn't be given in the first place
as for the schedule , i'm sorry but that applies to all teams who compete .. you prepare your squad for the season and not the first 11
as for the injuries refer back to your own pre-season

it's not the schedule by itself.

it's not the injuries by themself.

it's the combination of schedule and injuries during a period when we're always at our lowest in a season. our squad was prepared, but in case you hadn't noticed we've had injuries permeating every freakin' level of it! yeah our pre-season wasn't the greatest (poor choice of destination given the heat) but that doesn't explain every single injury we've had.

and mate, for the ref calls in Real's favour to even out you're going to have to get penalties & red cards given against you in every game for the rest of the season! you've gotten a ridiculous amount of "luck" since we whupped you in the Bernabeu in December. not to mention all your attackers bar Di Maria have been fit and firing. I mean how would yu have coped without Benzema, Higuain and Özil? and with Xabi having to be rested every other game? and with no refereeing decisions going for you? you'd have dropped points just like we have.

 

[Beast]

it's not the schedule by itself.

it's not the injuries by themself.

it's the combination of schedule and injuries during a period when we're always at our lowest in a season. our squad was prepared, but in case you hadn't noticed we've had injuries permeating every freakin' level of it! yeah our pre-season wasn't the greatest (poor choice of destination given the heat) but that doesn't explain every single injury we've had.

and mate, for the ref calls in Real's favour to even out you're going to have to get penalties & red cards given against you in every game for the rest of the season! you've gotten a ridiculous amount of "luck" since we whupped you in the Bernabeu in December. not to mention all your attackers bar Di Maria have been fit and firing. I mean how would yu have coped without Benzema, Higuain and Özil? and with Xabi having to be rested every other game? and with no refereeing decisions going for you? you'd have dropped points just like we have.

We have backup Meta, the backup you were laughing about earlier ..you don't
this with long term injuries for Khedira and even Sahin is like a new unused footballer..

thanks for your win in the clasico , you gave Granero a chance of a lifetime .. without your league win Granero would have been a sub and playing Xabi-Granero duet in the midfield changed our fortunes completely
when Sahin is fit he can replace any of them , Ozil out Kaka in or Callejon.. Di Maria out than it's Higuain-Benzema-CR or Callejon

we were prepared you were not

 

[dalitis8]

We have backup Meta, the backup you were laughing about earlier ..you don't
this with long term injuries for Khedira and even Sahin is like a new unused footballer..

thanks for your win in the clasico , you gave Granero a chance of a lifetime .. without your league win Granero would have been a sub and playing Xabi-Granero duet in the midfield changed our fortunes completely
when Sahin is fit he can replace any of them , Ozil out Kaka in or Callejon.. Di Maria out than it's Higuain-Benzema-CR or Callejon

we were prepared you were not

Granero

Sahin

What have they ever done?

But you have one big advantage over us, and I have said it many times. You have much more in attack:

CR7 + Benzema + Higuain + Ozil + Di Maria + Kaka + Callejon

Kaka and Callejon, are not really up to standard, but they are more than capable of acting as alternatives.

We only have Messi + Alexis + ???? + an Amazing midfielder ordered to play as something of an attacker.

Villa has been lost, Alexis was was out for 2 months. And we have also played Messi to the death. Pedro has also been either injured, or totally out of form.

 

[Flavia]

We have backup Meta, the backup you were laughing about earlier ..you don't
this with long term injuries for Khedira and even Sahin is like a new unused footballer..

thanks for your win in the clasico , you gave Granero a chance of a lifetime .. without your league win Granero would have been a sub and playing Xabi-Granero duet in the midfield changed our fortunes completely
when Sahin is fit he can replace any of them , Ozil out Kaka in or Callejon.. Di Maria out than it's Higuain-Benzema-CR or Callejon

we were prepared you were not

rm has a bigger squad and is more prepared to deal with injuries. You'd also still be leading the table without all the help you got from refs. But it wouldn't be this 10 point gap it is now, not without all the help you got from games like getafe and mallorca. It doesn't even need to count all the bad refereeing Barça is having to deal with in away games.

 

[Beast]

Granero

Sahin

What have they ever done?

But you have one big advantage over us, and I have said it many times. You have much more in attack:

CR7 + Benzema + Higuain + Ozil + Di Maria + Kaka + Callejon

Kaka and Callejon, are not really up to standard, but they are more than capable of acting as alternatives.

We only have Messi + Alexis + ???? + an Amazing midfielder ordered to play as something of an attacker.

Villa has been lost, Alexis was was out for 2 months. And we have also played Messi to the death. Pedro has also been either injured, or totally out of form.

Ask Granero in the return leg what he has done, he is a starter since the defeat in the Copa..
Sahin once he regain his form is like an additional new player for us.. hope we don't need him cause so far the Xabi-Granero is doing quite well

rm has a bigger squad and is more prepared to deal with injuries. You'd also still be leading the table without all the help you got from refs. But it wouldn't be this 10 point gap it is now, not without all the help you got from games like getafe and mallorca. It doesn't even need to count all the bad refereeing Barça is having to deal with in away games.

Your problems cause the difference not our games
I watch Real and i know 95% of the time we will come back in the game if we are down (always been the case except on few occasions ) , Real was named king of comebacks since a very long time .. you don't have that feeling now when Barca is playing (except in the clasico )

 

[Flavia]

Ask Granero in the return leg what he has done, he is a starter since the defeat in the Copa..
Sahin once he regain his form is like an additional new player for us.. hope we don't need him cause so far the Xabi-Granero is doing quite well



Your problems cause the difference not our games
I watch Real and i know 95% of the time we will come back in the game if we are down (always been the case except on few occasions ) , Real was named king of comebacks since a very long time .. you don't have that feeling now when Barca is playing (except in the clasico )

Just getafe and mallorca games would've made a huge difference on the table, Beast. The favourism to rm is there for anyone to see. What makes me angry is this. I'd really like to see how the madrid press would be like if things were inverted, Barça getting clearly favoured and rm not getting penaltys, and getting 3 disallowed goals in one game. At this point it'd probably already be a huge scandal on marca and as.

I honestly have no problem with rm winning the league for being the best team, it's a sport and I know how to lose. But seeing refs and politics interfering so much, it's revolting. It's not just Barça bad away form that made the 10 point gap.

 

[Metaphysical]

We have backup Meta, the backup you were laughing about earlier ..you don't

we have backup. I'll take Thiago every day of the week over any of Real's second stringers. it's just we've had to use all our backup at the same time.

when Sahin is fit he can replace any of them , Ozil out Kaka in or Callejon.. Di Maria out than it's Higuain-Benzema-CR or Callejon

we were prepared you were not

yeah, gonna haveta call bullshit on that one.

Villa - Benzema
Pedro - Higuain
Alexis - Di Maria
Afellay - Callejon
Iniesta - Ozil
Cesc - Kaka
Xavi - Xabi
Keita - Khedira
Busi - Lass

I'd love to see Real notch up this series of wins with no Benzema, Khedira or Callejon, and only a couple of Higuain appearances. and with Di Maria being injured half the time and the other half playing through pain. and with Ozil out for all but a couple of games and Xabi only able to play 1 game out of every 2. and with Kaka having to play nearly every minute of every game. and with Lass suffering a horrible injury to keep him out for a few games (& having to be rested because of fatigue before that).

shit, man, if we just had Villa injured we could cope. if it was just Pedro, we could cope. if it was just Iniesta, etc. etc. but it's ALL OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME. Real have had just one injury to a key player this season and that's Di Maria's recent woe. otherwise all your star turns have been fit for the whole campaign.

in an ideal world, Barça could bring Alexis and Cesc off the bench (or Alexis and Villa, or Pedro and Villa, whatever), but instead we're having to give debuts to 20-year-old canteranos while Real can bring Higuain (or Benzema) and Kaka off the bench in pretty much every game. sums up the injury situation.

and that's IGNORING the referee situation.

 

[IrvDizzle]

last year Cristiano got hurt, Madrid lost 8 pts in 3 games or something like that and Madridistas didn't stop complaining about it.

I don't know why Cules cannot complain about our situation, especially when Xavi or Iniesta or Villa > Cristiano

EDIT: my grammar was terrible

 

[Beast]

last year Cristiano got hurt, Madrid lost 8 pts in 3 games or something like that and Madridistas didn't stop complaining about it.

I don't know why Cules cannot complain about our situation, especially when Xavi or Iniesta or Villa > Cristiano

EDIT: my grammar was terrible

Not last year the year before it we lost him for 50 days and he was back in the clasico , we lost zero points through out that period ..

nuff said

we have backup. I'll take Thiago every day of the week over any of Real's second stringers. it's just we've had to use all our backup at the same time.



yeah, gonna haveta call bullshit on that one.

Villa - Benzema
Pedro - Higuain
Alexis - Di Maria
Afellay - Callejon
Iniesta - Ozil
Cesc - Kaka
Xavi - Xabi
Keita - Khedira
Busi - Lass

I'd love to see Real notch up this series of wins with no Benzema, Khedira or Callejon, and only a couple of Higuain appearances. and with Di Maria being injured half the time and the other half playing through pain. and with Ozil out for all but a couple of games and Xabi only able to play 1 game out of every 2. and with Kaka having to play nearly every minute of every game. and with Lass suffering a horrible injury to keep him out for a few games (& having to be rested because of fatigue before that).

shit, man, if we just had Villa injured we could cope. if it was just Pedro, we could cope. if it was just Iniesta, etc. etc. but it's ALL OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME. Real have had just one injury to a key player this season and that's Di Maria's recent woe. otherwise all your star turns have been fit for the whole campaign.

in an ideal world, Barça could bring Alexis and Cesc off the bench (or Alexis and Villa, or Pedro and Villa, whatever), but instead we're having to give debuts to 20-year-old canteranos while Real can bring Higuain (or Benzema) and Kaka off the bench in pretty much every game. sums up the injury situation.

and that's IGNORING the referee situation.

Sorry but Thiago is very ordinary so far.. he is a good midfielder but i'd take Granero over him easily
half of the changes are caused by Pep .. and a large portion of your injuries due to pre-season .. we did lose Di Maria for a long time and he was top of the league assist man by far we didn't suffer..we had alternatives , now take your highest assist man out and see how you suffer (i gave an example of CR the season off Pellegrini )
we play basically the same 11 almost every game (or large part of them ) you rest your players and they still look like crap and fatigued .. who's to blame in that case ? we lost Higuain last year like Villa we managed with Benzema and CR (ditto for Kaka before it ) but we were never 10 points a drift..
when you have Cesc,Xavi on the bench it's not injuries it's your coach ..
and your forgot to mention an addition of Granero , Altintop and Sahin on the top of that list..I'd put Sahin as the same bracket as Afellay.. Callejon is easily twice as good as the Dutchie who should be heading to another club in the summer

 

[Yugi]

Thiago over Granero? seriously? good thing Spain NT´s think otherwise

 

[Metaphysical]

Sorry but Thiago is very ordinary so far.. he is a good midfielder but i'd take Granero over him easily

uhh.....

half of the changes are caused by Pep .. and a large portion of your injuries due to pre-season .. we did lose Di Maria for a long time and he was top of the league assist man by far we didn't suffer..we had alternatives , now take your highest assist man out and see how you suffer (i gave an example of CR the season off Pellegrini )
we play basically the same 11 almost every game (or large part of them ) you rest your players and they still look like crap and fatigued .. who's to blame in that case ? we lost Higuain last year like Villa we managed with Benzema and CR (ditto for Kaka before it ) but we were never 10 points a drift..

you're still talking about 1 or 2 injuries, we've had half a dozen all at the same time. it doesn't compare.

like I said, we could cope with 1 or 2 guys going out as you have with Di Maria (I seem to recall us beating you in the Bernabeu without needing Villa or Pedro) but when it's a high volume of players and you have a high volume of difficult games, shit is going to get hairy.

as for resting our players - sorry who are we resting? apart from Villa when he had a crack in his tibia (that eventually broke when he did play) and Xavi for the last few weeks, we've not had an opportunity to rest anyone. Alexis has had to come back from 2/3 injuries early to help us out ffs.

and yes, our pre-season wasn't ideal and that did cause a lot of muscle injuries in the autumn, but the sheer volume of our current injury list is fucking ridiculous.

when you have Cesc,Xavi on the bench it's not injuries it's your coach ..

if Xavi wasn't on the bench he'd be added to the injuries. Cesc is a different matter, but I can see the logic in trying to rest him with Leverkusen, Valencia & Atleti coming up. especially as he's played every game for 2 months and the pitch in Pamplona was rock solid.

and your forgot to mention an addition of Granero , Altintop and Sahin on the top of that list..I'd put Sahin as the same bracket as Afellay.. Callejon is easily twice as good as the Dutchie who should be heading to another club in the summer

it's not about how good the player is, it's the role they play in the team. Afellay provided wing-depth (like Callejon) that was taken away because of injury. if you lost Callejon and had to use kids from your cantera as we have (Cuenca and Tello) would you still be in the position you are now? would you fuck.

for Altintop see Fontas (backup defender).

and you can't argue for Granero as a sign of Real's squad depth, tbh, as you tried to sell him in January. you tried to sell Lass in the summer, too. only your high asking prices and the players refusal to move saw them remain and add the depth you now proudly vaunt. if Mourinho had his wish and the two had departed you'd have struggled majorly with Sahin's injury. but you got lucky as they stayed.

 

[ricknattery]

Barca is in second place in La Liga because of 3 reasons
1. Refs blatantly favouring RM(6 or 7 games I already mentioned throughout the whole season)
2. Self-Complacency (less motivation and tiredness physically and psycologically) this is only normal after winning 13 trophies out 16
3. Injuries