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Guaporta

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No one was interested in players like Douglas. They were just part of money laundering efforts involving Traffic. You seem to believe it was part of scout finding. He was a joke in Brazil.

No, not really. Barcelona's scouts visited a Sao Paolo match to scout Rodrigo Caio, but he didn't play that match. They still attended the game and were impressed with Douglas' performances. Of course there's some shady business going on involving Traffic, but the main reason they got him is because of this game.
 

Jombi

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Why would Luan be 'clearly a better player' than Mario Gómez? First of all; Luan isn't even a proper striker, he could be a decent winger for Barcelona at best. That doesn't fit the profiel Robert said to be looking for and that doesn't fit the tactics Barcelona are playing. The key for Lucho is to create space for Messi and that's the main reason our little magician is playing from the right. We saw under Tata Martino that opponents could defend him more easily when he's playing in a central role. Luis Suárez opened up space for him and that's why Barcelona is thriving under Luis Enrique. Messi and Neymar need a striker that occupies the center backs of the opponent, so they can exploid the space between the full backs and center backs. That's why the profile of our new signing is a pure striker and not an attacker that can play on the wings as well. We have enough options to be back-up for Messi and Neymar; Arda, Denis, Munir, Rafinha and even Iniesta could play in those positions.

That said, Mario Gómez would be the best option for me. Was one of the best strikers in the world at Bayern, had a less succesful time at Fiorentina because of injuries, but regained his form at Besiktas. If he could be statisfied with the Larsson-role (which means 25 games a season (if not more)), he would be an excellent signing. He provides aireal threat in attack, could be an impact sub in games in which 'the ball just won't go into the net'. Besides that, he would cost only €7M. That way we'd have €15M to add to the budget of next year (which is lower because of the André Gomes signing) and could bring a world class right back to the club.

Our "profile" we are looking for is just what people want to believe. Nolito was clearly on the radar. Not a striker. Gabriel Jesus was clearly on our radar. He is not a "pure striker" either. He is a multi-purpose forward able to play on every position up front. Luan is a player in the same mold, although not as good and too expensive.

Arda, Denis, Munir, Rafa, Iniesta are either not goal scorers or simply not LF or RF. Its absolutely laughable that a guy like Gomez will play much for us. Suarez is a world class striker who is never injured and hate to be subbed off. Gomez will never get any type of form or match fitness for us and be really rusty. In such an important position, it is crucial for a guy to be match fit. Much better to buy someone who is versatile. And the "old striker=new Larsson"-joke needs to stop soon. Time to move on.
 
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Jombi

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No, not really. Barcelona's scouts visited a Sao Paolo match to scout Rodrigo Caio, but he didn't play that match. They still attended the game and were impressed with Douglas' performances. Of course there's some shady business going on involving Traffic, but the main reason they got him is because of this game.

Yeah right. Would be interested to see any credible evidence of that. No, Sport garbage is not credible evidence.
 
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Flavia

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Our "profile" we are looking for is just what people want to believe. Nolito was clearly on the radar. Not a striker. Gabriel Jesus was clearly on our radar. He is not a "pure striker" either. He is a multi-purpose forward able to play on every position up front. Luan is a player in the same mold, although not as good and too expensive.

Arda, Denis, Munir, Rafa, Iniesta are either not goal scorers or simply not LF or RF. Its absolutely laughable that a guy like Gomez will play much for us. Suarez is a world class striker who is never injured and hate to be subbed off. Gomez will never get any type of form or match fitness for us and be really rusty. In such an important position, it is crucial for a guy to be match fit. Much better to buy someone who is versatile.
For the amount of minutes they'll play as lw/rw, Denis or even Arda would be fine. Luan is not a good finisher either, that was the profile Robert said he wanted. There's no need to spend so much on a players that won't play much, when there's options already. Lucho supposedly want a forward with goal.
 

Guaporta

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Our "profile" we are looking for is just what people want to believe. Nolito was clearly on the radar. Not a striker. Gabriel Jesus was clearly on our radar. He is not a "pure striker" either. He is a multi-purpose forward able to play on every position up front. Luan is a player in the same mold, although not as good and too expensive.

Arda, Denis, Munir, Rafa, Iniesta are either not goal scorers or simply not LF or RF. Its absolutely laughable that a guy like Gomez will play much for us. Suarez is a world class striker who is never injured and Gomez will never get any type of form or match fitness for us and be really rusty. In such an important position, it is crucial for a guy to be match fit. Much better to buy someone who is versatile.

Seriously?! Didn't you see the press conferences of Robert Fernandez and Luis Enrique in pre-season? The clearly stated the profile they're looking for (https://twitter.com/G14_en/status/756074187400290304). There's plenty more where that came from. Apparently they saw Gabriel Jesus as a pure striker, a position that he excelled in at Palmeiras (due to injuries of others). Nolito wasn't on the radar this summer, mainly because Lucho wanted a pure striker instead of a winger. That's why he went to City instead of us.

In the case of Mario Gómez; the one thing is linked to another. If we could play him enough in the first half of the season (in the first rounds of the Copa and against lesser opposition in La Liga) he isn't 'rusty and lack match fitness' in the most important fase of the season. It's all about how you manage it and since Lucho likes to rotate his squad it should be fine.

Yeah right. Would be interested to see any credible evidence of that. No, Sport garbage is not credible evidence.

You ask, I deliver.

http://www.insidespanishfootball.com/120542/sao-paulo-confirm-douglas-negotiations-with-barcelona/
 

Jombi

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For the amount of minutes they'll play as lw/rw, Denis or even Arda would be fine. Luan is not a good finisher either, that was the profile Robert said he wanted. There's no need to spend so much on a players that won't play much, when there's options already. Lucho supposedly want a forward with goal.

Arda is slow as a turtle. Denis isnt really a forward either, but he is the only real option. Then people mention Munir who really sucks as LF/RF. He is a striker.
 
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Flavia

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Arda is slow as a turtle. Denis isnt really a forward either, but he is the only real option. Then people mention Munir who really sucks as LF/RF. He is a striker.

Doesn't matter what Arda is, playing there is better than in the midfield. Denis is good there as well. MSN will keep playing most matches, so when one of Messi or Neymar rests, there's cover. Suarez is the one who needs a better cover, and that's not Luan.
 

Jombi

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Seriously?! Didn't you see the press conferences of Robert Fernandez and Luis Enrique in pre-season? The clearly stated the profile they're looking for (https://twitter.com/G14_en/status/756074187400290304). There's plenty more where that came from. Apparently they saw Gabriel Jesus as a pure striker, a position that he excelled in at Palmeiras (due to injuries of others). Nolito wasn't on the radar this summer, mainly because Lucho wanted a pure striker instead of a winger. That's why he went to City instead of us.

In the case of Mario Gómez; the one thing is linked to another. If we could play him enough in the first half of the season (in the first rounds of the Copa and against lesser opposition in La Liga) he isn't 'rusty and lack match fitness' in the most important fase of the season. It's all about how you manage it and since Lucho likes to rotate his squad it should be fine.



You ask, I deliver.

http://www.insidespanishfootball.com/120542/sao-paulo-confirm-douglas-negotiations-with-barcelona/

Wait and see. They always say stuff like that, but they are always flexible. How do you know that Nolito was never wanted by Lucho? Impossible to know this. We were heavily linked with him. Are you saying that Lucho wanted him and then changed his mind? And now you say that they see GJ as a pure striker and not someone who can play on the wings? He's totally different than someone like Gomez.

Lucho is not going to bench Suarez in La Liga matches which we need to win. And Suarez wont accept it either.

That link is not evidence of anything. These people say anything and they sure wont admit to anything regarding Traffic.
 
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Jombi

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Doesn't matter what Arda is, playing there is better than in the midfield. Denis is good there as well. MSN will keep playing most matches, so when one of Messi or Neymar rests, there's cover. Suarez is the one who needs a better cover, and that's not Luan.

Ney and Messi can obviously get lengthy injuries and we really lack someone who can score goals. Thats the huge advantage of buying someone who can play all 3 positions up front. When someone like Suarez is out, we need someone in that position who is match fit. The only way that is happening is if that player has already played numerous games in other positions. Thats why Gabriel Jesus would have been great for us.
 

Guaporta

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Wait and see. They always say stuff like that, but they are always flexible. How do you know that Nolito was never wanted by Lucho? Impossible to know this. We were heavily linked with him. Are you saying that Lucho wanted him and then changed his mind? And now you say that they see GJ as a pure striker and not someone who can play on the wings? He's totally different than someone like Gomez.

Lucho is not going to bench Suarez in La Liga matches which we need to win. And Suarez wont accept it either.

That link is not evidence of anything. These people say anything and they sure wont admit to anything regarding Traffic.

Let me ask you; do you have any evidence of Traffic being involved in the Douglas-transfer (and being the main reason why Barcelona brought him to the club)? And why do I need to 'get evidence' while you could just go on ahead with your conspiracy-theories and don't have to prove your point. So where's your evidence?
 

Chainsaw

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The reason why the Barca's bench lacked quality on certain positions (to be specific the forward line) in the past seasons is because the board thought like many of you guys here: "MSN are the starters therefore any player who arrives won't play much!" I think we are all aware of that, thank you very much for reminding us. The main point for a solid back-up is when the injuries arrive. Injuries are not going to call you before they show up. They could come at any minute to any player, and when a starter is out injured (or suspended) his replacement needs to be someone who doesn't exactly suck balls when he's going to play!

So the boards MUST find that type of back-up who could play at least effectively and not being a complete ghost on the pitch anytime he's called into the task. A club like Barca must think of such situations beforehand and not wait until they are in the shit to react. Munir simply lacks the quality to be that guy, and any player of similar caliber will only add quantity to the bench and not quality.
 

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