Best club team of the last 15 years tournament (Round of 32/Part 1)

bismp

Well-known member
Hello all! :)

I've not been so active as of late, but I was thinking to create this poll/tournament to find out which club teams in the last 15 years is considered the best. Of course, one could say that the opinion of BarcaForum could be a little bit biased :lol: But I hope that this topic will be of interest for some of you and it could lead to some interesting discussions :)

Rules of the tournament are fairly simple:
-All games are home and away, except for the final. Of course you don't have to predict an exact score for a two-legged tie, rather than just to predict who would come on top.
-The timeframe of ~15 years years is arbitrary. I started counting from 2005/06 onwards, just because that was the time I started following football. The last eligible season would be of course 2022/23.
-From this timeframe I picked the 32 club teams, which, in my opinion, were the most successful, based on the titles they won and how dominant they were.
-Then I ranked those teams and created a bracket, so that the better ranked teams would have an "easier" path to the following rounds (although as you can see, easy is definitely not the most appropriate word :lol: )
-The teams I chose were most of the times the "peak" of a particular era of a club. For example PSG 2019/20 would be the peak of the Neymar/Mbappe PSG etc. However, for the eligibility itself as well as for the ranking within the 32 teams format, I also took the 3 year run including the peak season. For example, 2011/12 Real was the peak of Mourinho's 2010-2013 Real Madrid.
-I tried not to include different iterations of the same team, so that the bracket would have some variety. For example, I included only 2016/17 Real Madrid to represent the 2015-2018 Zidane threepeat side, as I felt that the starting 11 as well as the bench mostly stayed intact.
-This is where bias comes in, as for example I included 2008/09 Barca and 2010/11 Barca as two different teams, or 2013/14 and 2015/16 Atletico etc, as I felt that although these teams were similar, there were enough differences in personell or tactics to separate them. That said, there are not many cases of "doubles".

So for the first post, I would like to present the first 8 ties of the round of 32. As there is no in-forum option to create a poll with multiple questions, I'll just type them and you may post your opinion normally. So, here are the first ties:

Manchester City 2022/23 vs. PSG 2013/14
Real Madrid 2011/12 vs. Chelsea 2011/12
Barcelona 2005/06 vs. Manchester City 2017/18
Barcelona 2018/19 vs. Bayern 2012/13
Liverpool 2018/19 vs. BVB 2012/13
Chelsea 2007/08 vs. Real Madrid 2013/14
AC Milan 2006/07 vs. Juventus 2016/17
Chelsea 2016/17 vs. Barcelona 2010/11
 
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KingLeo10

Senior Member
Great thread, but I suspect the answers will be:

Tier 1: Barca 08/09, Barca 10/11, Barca 14/15, RM 16/17, Bayern 12/13
Tier 2: RM 17/18, RM 13/14, City 22/23, Pool 18/19, United 07/08, United 08/09, Chelsea 08/09

And then it becomes very hard to separate the rest
 

serghei

Senior Member
:lol:

2011 Barca beats all teams at least 6/10 times. If you add extra time maybe 8/10 times.

Hell, these days with 15 mins of added time and video refs... maybe you get 9/10 times.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Great thread, but I suspect the answers will be:

Tier 1: Barca 08/09, Barca 10/11, Barca 14/15, RM 16/17, Bayern 12/13
Tier 2: RM 17/18, RM 13/14, City 22/23, Pool 18/19, United 07/08, United 08/09, Chelsea 08/09

And then it becomes very hard to separate the rest

United 08/09 is better than any Bayern team I've seen in the last 15 years. Bayern are quite overrated here because they spanked some various Barca sides in major turmoil.

Best sides after 2011 and 2009 Barca are 2017 Madrid and 2015 Barca.
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
United 08/09 is better than any Bayern team I've seen in the last 15 years. Bayern are quite overrated here because they spanked some various Barca sides in major turmoil.

Best sides after 2011 and 2009 Barca are 2017 Madrid and 2015 Barca.
I wouldn't dispute that too much. United 07-09 did have a prime Cristiano, young Rooney, best CB pair in the world at that time, VDS, Scholes, Evra, Tevez etc.
 

serghei

Senior Member
The biggest factor of 2011 Barca above all others by a clear gap is the 2011 CL final. It's not normal to dominate a final like that vs a legitimate champion of England at the time, and a team that made 3 CL finals in 4 years.

Total shots194
Shots on target121
Ball possession63%37%

The key of that team was in midfield. You simply had no other choice but to park the bus and hope to survive somehow.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Manchester City 2022/23 vs. PSG 2013/14: City

Real Madrid 2011/12 vs. Chelsea 2011/12  Real

Barcelona 2005/06 vs. Manchester City 2017/18 Barca

Barcelona 2018/19 vs. Bayern 2012/13 Bayern

Liverpool 2018/19 vs. BVB 2012/13 Liverpool

Chelsea 2007/08 vs. Real Madrid 2013/14  Real

AC Milan 2006/07 vs. Juventus 2016/17  Milan

Chelsea 2016/17 vs. Barcelona 2010/11 Barca
 

Catta

Senior Member
Atleti 2014 most underrated side in the CL history. Best side not to win it. Came the closest of any side to beat Real in a CL final, would have won it for sure if Costa didnt get injured.

They could beat most CL winners of tha past 20 years.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Any team that has a prime and fit Messi in it. Close the thread.

That team also had some other prime all time greats in it. Just saying... Messi played in a dream-team managed by one of the greatest managers.

He did not win a single CL in which Barca didn't have an absolutely stacked team full of superstars. These are pure facts.
 

Fati_Future_BallonDor

Well-known member
Great thread, but I suspect the answers will be:

Tier 1: Barca 08/09, Barca 10/11, Barca 14/15, RM 16/17, Bayern 12/13
Tier 2: RM 17/18, RM 13/14, City 22/23, Pool 18/19, United 07/08, United 08/09, Chelsea 08/09

And then it becomes very hard to separate the rest
Barca 14/15, Real 16/17 and Bayern 12/13 would be interesting matches
 

Fati_Future_BallonDor

Well-known member
Atleti 2014 most underrated side in the CL history. Best side not to win it. Came the closest of any side to beat Real in a CL final, would have won it for sure if Costa didnt get injured.

They could beat most CL winners of tha past 20 years.
That was peak Atletico and peak Simeone! Unbreakable defence and great offense. Real could not even win one match in 90min in that season against them
 

bismp

Well-known member
Guys please stay on-topic.The point is to go through the tournament and the individual matchups, not to discuss the final already :(

Anyway, my predictions for the first 8 matchups of the round of 32:

Manchester City 2022/23 vs. PSG 2013/14: City (clearly)

Real Madrid 2011/12 vs. Chelsea 2011/12  Real (but you never know with this Chelsea side)

Barcelona 2005/06 vs. Manchester City 2017/18 Barca (probably)

Barcelona 2018/19 vs. Bayern 2012/13 Bayern (easily)

Liverpool 2018/19 vs. BVB 2012/13 Liverpool (fairly easily)

Chelsea 2007/08 vs. Real Madrid 2013/14  Real (could go either way, but that Real was damn near unbeatable)

AC Milan 2006/07 vs. Juventus 2016/17  Milan (could go either way though)

Chelsea 2016/17 vs. Barcelona 2010/11 Barca (i could see a draw or a narrow defeat at Stamford Bridge, but a comfortable win at the Nou Camp)
 

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