Messigician
Senior Member
There was a break clause for earlier
BREAKING: Barca have reached agreement with Nike
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We have on our hands the revenue structure that is published in the reports. I have these graphs on my hands. Show me the drop in revenues for example from commercial, stadium (in the 2022-2023 season when we were at Camp Nou) etc. Show me that drop by a third. The only thing you can show is media revenue in the most successful financial plan 2018-2019 compared to 2022-2023. But I already have my arguments ready in response to that. You can try to start that conversation.
I'm focusing on the capology numbers
In 2017 he renewed his contract and was getting 23m, in 2018-2019 he was also getting 23m and in 2019-2020 his salary increased by 7 !!! million euros.
I wrote about Bartomeu's stupidity back in 2016-2017 but on a different forum (which I was banned for for ‘showing dislike for the club’). Stupid fans didn't see what was going on then, but I did.
soul24rage
Senior Member
- You are obviously missing the whole point of why I added Laporta's word. I'm using your own argument method of cherrypicking facts that suit my argument while you did the same for others.
- Capology? Seriously? Also, Suarez renewed his contract in 2016, not 2017. Check your facts again
- You expect me to believe you that you did that on a different forum? You have all the time and energy to post a lot about Messi on this forum but absolutely nothing on Bartomeu on this forum.
Open the financial report for 2017-2018, 2018-2019 and for 2022-2023. Here are my facts. Show me that insane drop in revenue. These are my facts.
The extension was announced on Dec 15, 2016, two weeks before the new year. I remembered it being early 17 or late 16. Irrelevant. https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/foot...813787/luis-suarez-at-fc-barcelona-until-2021
That's not the point, the point is that Suarez got older, played worse, but his wages went up by €7m.
Is there an official document somewhere that says Leo's salary caused an imbalance in the structure of the team's wage bill? Of course, there is no such document. But I know how microeconomics works.
I'll remind you that our problem was that our REVENUE was not covering the cost of the salary cap at the time Leo left.
Salaries accounted for 110% of the club's income. It's not about transfers, transfers are a separate issue.
Imagine you're a footballer. You're a WORLD level player, you're in the elite for example, you're Coutinho in 2018. You earn 7 million euros in your current team.
Here Barcelona want you, with Leo playing for them, who earns €120m a year (including signing bonus, loyalty bonus).
So, attention to the question - let everyone answer it - imagine you are Coutinho in 2018 - you are a world class player, yes you are not Leo, but you are a world class player - will you consider Messi's wages at Barcelona when you make your wage demands to Barcelona who want to buy you?
I don't care whether you believe it or not. I brought up Leo in the context of discussing Yamal's contract.
And in general, the discussion of Leo's contract is relevant, because there are idiots who believe that Leo is a ‘sacred cow’ and that his salary was reasonable. I like to expose such idiots. As for Bartomeu - no one is now saying he is a good bloke - so there is no need for me to write about his mistakes.
As long as there are people who believe that Leo is a good boy who loves this club a lot, loves it more than money and that he is not guilty of the club's current situation I will bring it up.
Messi is a greedy boy who even did not go to meet his club, which is in a difficult situation also because of his greed.
soul24rage
Senior Member
Of course it's relevant that it's 2016, because you mentioned that everything happened after Summer 2017.
All of your arguments goes out the window from this.
Again, where's the energy for this for Bartomeu? Everything about you is about Messi, so of course I don't believe one thing that you say.
Feel free to throw me more fake stats that you like to throw.
The financial part of the contract can be reviewed without an extension.
Fake articles. Are you saying that about the club's official financial statements? Talk to your doctor.
What difference does it make whether you believe it or not if the facts are with me? Messi received for 4 years from 2017 to 2021 = 555 million euros. These are the facts.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
The year will be 2040 and @M3ls will still be talking about Messi's salary those years, talk down on Lamine Yamal because he didn't rate him initially whilst hide whenever his favorite Ferran Torres is mentioned.
It's so boring.
Messi is not at the club anymore. Lamine Yamal will get paid, and I have faith or at least hope in the club that they will keep it steady after almost going bankrupt.
If you want the club to sell Yamal because he'll get a top ten or top five level salary in the world in the future then you're just crazy. Who do you want to replace him with? Another Ferran Torres maybe?
Just enjoy the football at the moment instead of constantly going through your excel sheets and worrying about what may or may not happen in five years.
It's so boring.
Messi is not at the club anymore. Lamine Yamal will get paid, and I have faith or at least hope in the club that they will keep it steady after almost going bankrupt.
If you want the club to sell Yamal because he'll get a top ten or top five level salary in the world in the future then you're just crazy. Who do you want to replace him with? Another Ferran Torres maybe?
Just enjoy the football at the moment instead of constantly going through your excel sheets and worrying about what may or may not happen in five years.
CatalinR10
Senior Member
So far , tldr ......we still won't be able to go to 1:1 even with this deal ????
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
Nope.
The signing bonus is spread over the duration of the contract. Media for some reason thought a few weeks back Nike would pay that out as a lump sum which would solve the 1:1 issue.
They'll probably get there by January though.
soul24rage
Senior Member
Your original argument: "There is a domino effect because of the 555m contract signed by Messi because of someone who hasn't worked at Barca for 5+ years thinks so"
- I'm using your original method of argument of using someone's statements that shed good light on Messi
- You don't mention anything at all about Bartomeu in this forum when he clearly he had a huge part in our financial situation giving out ridiculous transfer fees and wages to Coutinho and Griezmann
- using Suarez contract renewal as evidence when clearly he did renewed before Messi renewed his contract
Clearly, you focusing on the wrong folks of Messi and of Yamal, when all of your focus should be on someone else at the club.
CatalinR10
Senior Member
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
At Barca it's probably best not to talk about the odds of anything happening. You might end up getting disappointed or pleasantly surprised
Don Juan Laporta Estruch
Well-known member
It's irrelevant brah. We don't need to get to 1:1 in Jan because we ain't buying anyone in Jan and we have everyone registered who we need to register due to MATS cap space.
What we need is to get to 1:1 in July so we can spend spend spend. This should be relatively easy to achieve because we will be back at Camp Nou and also the deferred payments to the Amigos and Frenkie are coming to an end.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
We've only registered Olmo until January.
So they need to sort that out which they definitely will.
Don't know if they need to get to 1:1 necessarily, but they need to find some margin to register him for the season or ideally his entire contract.
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