BBZ8800
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He is Guardiola, 100%.
Even the biggest Pep's fan wouldn't post so many good things about Pep
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He is Guardiola, 100%.
Even the biggest Pep's fan wouldn't post so many good things about Pep
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Ryu Hayabusa
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vigneshFCB
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Guardiola makes Bayern more well-balanced. Yes, Bayern have a better bench. But Guardiola's control is a more important factor than superior bench-quality.
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Ryu Hayabusa
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Well, that is because Pep doesn't utilize a CAM in his system 99% of the time.
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vigneshFCB
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I find the usage of the phrase 'Guardiola fanboy' here a little condescending, if not insulting. I don't doubt your good intentions though.
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serghei
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Guardiola is a better coach than Lucho, that much is clear IMO, no matter how many Bayern fans take a hit at him for un-germanising Bayern. However, Bayern just has a better squad. Some of their positions are doubled, if not tripled. The players we use as 2nd choices in some positions wouldn't make the 3rd choice at Bayern maybe. That is as far as depth is concerned. First 11 is a different story. The main problem with us now is that if one of the three up front for example gets injured or suspended, the person that it is supposed to replace him is not at the required level. So, if say both teams will have problems with injuries this season (more than the usual stuff - contusions and such), Bayern can line-up a much better team. That is mostly because they have a stronger, more-balanced squad.
Btw, at Barca, Pep didn't make our youth players become better than they were, except if we're talking about absolutely special talents (Busi's case). Jeffren, Bojan, Montoya, Tello and others, all played during Pep's time, but weren't at the required level for FC Barcelona. If Pep wasn't good enough to raise their level, what makes you so sure he would get more out of Bartra, Rafinha, Roberto and others right now?
In this case, choose your words more carefully, because that's exactly how you came across in this discussion. Pep is not Houdini or some other magician who will make a player better than his actual quality allows him to be. Case in point Tello.
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vigneshFCB
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Reasonable and respectful (unlike others). Thank you!
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vigneshFCB
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I agree mostly with your post. When did I suggest that Pep is a magician? I merely stated that Pep is the best. How you equate this with being a magician is beyond me.
Luftstalag14
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Trickykid
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Bayern were better under Heynkes. A much more formidable team.
I have eternal respect for Pep because of what he did at Barça, but this talk about him being the best coach in the world (how that's even determinable is beyond me) is silly. The perfect coach would never have let himself and his team get humiliated like they were against Real. The perfect coach would have shut up shop at 0-1 last season at Camp Nou and so on and so forth. There are plenty of cases against this perceived perfection of Guardiola.
The mere fact that he hasn't done more in his two first seasons at a Bayern team brimming with quality should be testament to that fact.
serghei
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You forgot the bayernzone magic words: "If fit".
Seriously now, if we make an estimation:
Alves>Lahm, Pique>Boateng, Messi>Robben, Neymar>Costa, Suarez>Lewandowski, Busquets>Thiago.
I'll give you Neuer and Vidal, as Bayern players who would start for us. Alba vs Alaba, Mascherano vs Benatia is too close to call.
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messi2140
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Vidal is such a game changer though. His energy is like having two players on the pitch. He plays with passion and gets everyone around him playing better. He can close down so well and tackle, then when they have the ball he plays the ball simple and well, and can charge forward and score goals too.
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