Bundesliga

Who will win the Bundesliga this season?

  • Bayern Munich

    Votes: 9 42.9%

  • Borussia Dortmund

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Stuttgart

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Leipzig

    Votes: 3 14.3%

  • Leverkusen

    Votes: 9 42.9%

  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    21
MontenegrinCuler

MontenegrinCuler

Well-known member
Gnidrologist said:
Bayer toothless and seem to have no answers against high press. Bayern seems strong. Wonder how Flicks suicidal football fare against them. :lol:
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Seems strong in what aspect? They haven't created a single good goal opportunity today, bar the Gnabry post maybe. The only goal they scored was a long distance banger from Pavlovic.

Leverkusen did good versus them especially considering it's an away game
 
G

Gnidrologist

Senior Member
I thought Bayer are ballers and wont sit in deep block like that. Either they've declined or Bayern is so much stronger. Hopefully the former.
 
fergus90

fergus90

Senior Member
Leverkusen played for the draw and got it but compared to last season where they genuinely outclassed Bayern, they look quite inferior to them this time around.
 
Birdy

Birdy

Senior Member
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WTF are you guys talking about?
Leverkusen got seriously outplayed here.
Bayern robbed 3 points they absolutely deserved by luck.
A far cry from the games between them last season, where Leverkusen were better in both.

Kompany has really changed them.
They are an attacking machine now.
We should take the game against them absolutely seriously. Olmo should totally start if he is fit.
I see a game with many many goals, hopefully for both sides, because Bayern are gonna score a lot against us
 
Maradona37

Maradona37

Well-known member
Most people said that Birdy. That Leverkusen were inferior tonight and it's looking like they might not be the team they were last season. No disgrace in that as they don't have the resources Bayern do. But yeah, Bayern were dominant from the parts I saw.
 
Birdy

Birdy

Senior Member
Maradona37 said:
Most people said that Birdy. That Leverkusen were inferior tonight and it's looking like they might not be the team they were last season. No disgrace in that as they don't have the resources Bayern do. But yeah, Bayern were dominant from the parts I saw.
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Many people said Leverkusen got the draw they went for in that game.
They could have lost 4-1 there. Zero credit for them.

That said, I don't think they are 1season wonder, and Alonso is a top young coach.
But they could not possibly sustain their last season's run.
Last season, they CRAZILY overperformed their metrics. Wins deep in injury time was a symptom of that.
 
Maradona37

Maradona37

Well-known member
Birdy said:
Many people said Leverkusen got the draw they went for in that game.
They could have lost 4-1 there. Zero credit for them.

That said, I don't think they are 1season wonder, and Alonso is a top young coach.
But they could not possibly sustain their last season's run.
Last season, they CRAZILY overperformed their metrics. Wins deep in injury time was a symptom of that.
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I understand. I think they come at that from a less scientific POV and a more sentimental one i.e. going away to Bayern is a tough game, they'll have to ride their luck at some point, if they dig in they can get something. Whereas you and I just look at the performance. But of course grit and determination are a part of football as well as the metrics and they did well to stay in a compact shape even if they did gift Bayern some chances.

I agree - prevalence of last minute wins are a bad sign and poor predictor of future dominance.

They're not a one-season wonder but it's very very difficult for any German team to sustain parity with Bayern. I do expect them to fall back into the pack with Dortmund, Leipzig, maybe Stuttgart et al.
 
fergus90

fergus90

Senior Member
Maradona37 said:
I understand. I think they come at that from a less scientific POV and a more sentimental one i.e. going away to Bayern is a tough game, they'll have to ride their luck at some point, if they dig in they can get something. Whereas you and I just look at the performance. But of course grit and determination are a part of football as well as the metrics and they did well to stay in a compact shape even if they did gift Bayern some chances.

I agree - prevalence of last minute wins are a bad sign and poor predictor of future dominance.

They're not a one-season wonder but it's very very difficult for any German team to sustain parity with Bayern. I do expect them to fall back into the pack with Dortmund, Leipzig, maybe Stuttgart et al.
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Exactly what I was saying. As in all the could offer was to sit back and try to cling on for a draw because Bayern were far better.

Wasn’t trying to paint it as some Leverkusen tactical masterclass.
 
Maradona37

Maradona37

Well-known member
fergus90 said:
Exactly what I was saying. As in all the could offer was to sit back and try to cling on for a draw because Bayern were far better.

Wasn’t trying to paint it as some Leverkusen tactical masterclass.
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Yeah I know you weren't mate, I guess Birdy meant people away from this site really.

Like you say they had to sit back with 10 men in a low block due to Bayern's superiority,
 
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