Claudio Bravo

[KingMessi]

Yes Bravo probably should have saved it but Pique also messed up.

Furthermore, we have to take into consideration how many times Bravo saved us points as well.

 

[Zangash]

So your argument is that since he was "shit" before now that he is "good", we should waste him?

Not sure what you're even talking about here.

Anything can be a season defining screw up if you strawman any mistake by him or others (past, present, future). That level of analysis is done when the league ends.

You don't know what the term strawman means. I believe the word you are looking for is "scapegoat". And there are many season defining screw ups over the course of a season. That was just one of them and, yes, it was quite major.

Your basing one keeper's performance argument on another team's performance, you are deviating.

Seriously, what the fuck are you even talking about? Madrid's performance is the reason we have to beat Atletico.

 

[xavi_the_Boss]

Furthermore, we have to take into consideration how many times Bravo saved us points as well.

True.Very impressed with him and Ter Stegen overall.We did a good Job replacing Valdes.

 

[Zangash]

They play Sevilla,Valencia and Celta.Last year they lost Points in all this matches and they are never that good against the better Teams in la Liga anyway.Of course there are also the CL semis for them which makes it even harder.The chances that they won´t drop Points are very slim.

Yes Bravo probably should have saved it but Pique also messed up.

I'd rather hope for a win than feel confident our rival will drop points. If Ronaldo and co. show up they could win 10+ games in a row no matter who they are. And once again, any Liga team can, at any moment, turn around and bend over for them. It's happened plenty of times in the past. If Madrid win their games and lose to Juve because of the overload and we lose to Atleti then bam, we're no longer leaders.

Pique fucked up too but I never blamed the tie entirely on Bravo. Lucho and Pique are as much to blame as well. That doesn't change the fact that if Bravo had saved it we'd be in a much better position right now. Either way, a win against Atletico is absolutely vital to our Liga hopes.

 

[KingMessi]

Seriously, what the fuck are you even talking about? Madrid's performance is the reason we have to beat Atletico.

Zangash, if you take a more positive look at this, Madrid have to win EVERY match and then hope we mess up somewhere. Whereas, we are the masters of our own destiny.

 

[Zangash]

Zangash, if you take a more positive look at this, Madrid have to win EVERY match and then hope we mess up somewhere. Whereas, we are the masters of our own destiny.

I'll probably be able to look at it more positively after we've beaten Atletico. They don't have anything else to compete for but the Liga and they're probably wanting revenge on the big 2 for knocking them out of the CL and Copa...

 

[Observer]

Not sure what you're even talking about here.

Just do a random check on your previous posts on this thread.

And there are many season defining screw ups over the course of a season. That was just one of them...

EXACTLY, see?

Seriously, what the fuck are you even talking about? Madrid's performance is the reason we have to beat Atletico.

aaaaaaaand what does that have to do with Bravo again?

 

[Zangash]

Just do a random check on your previous posts on this thread.

Not every post I make on every thread is related. Comments about him being poor at Sociedad have absolutely nothing to do with what I'm saying now.

EXACTLY, see?

See what, exactly? You didn't prove anything.

aaaaaaaand what does that have to do with Bravo again?

Not sure why you seem to think I am relating that to Bravo.

 

[Observer]

Not really gonna do the job of quoting everything for you again, it's Saturday

Just re-examine your logic.

 

[Zangash]

Not really gonna do the job of quoting everything for you again, it's Saturday

Just re-examine your logic.

You're the one tying completely unrelated posts together and trying to tell me what my argument is.

Saying Bravo made a mistake against Sevilla (A fact) does not have anything to do with me saying we have to beat Atletico to stay in the lead because I don't think Madrid will lose. The fact that you're refusing to display an even decent I.Q in this makes me deeply bemoan the lack of an ignore option.

 

[Mexcelona]

Bravo was good tonight, yes he had it a bit easy with espanyols bad strikes but he still did good.

 

[Barcaman]

Agreed. Did everything needed.
Clean sheet again

 

[Zangash]

Agreed. Did everything needed.
Clean sheet again

First season at Barca, first Zamora trophy.

 

[CatalinR10]

great game by bravo

 

[Observer]

You're the one tying completely unrelated posts together and trying to tell me what my argument is.

Saying Bravo made a mistake against Sevilla (A fact) does not have anything to do with me saying we have to beat Atletico to stay in the lead because I don't think Madrid will lose. The fact that you're refusing to display an even decent I.Q in this makes me deeply bemoan the lack of an ignore option.

The hater MO is based on cherry-picking to build an argument

You don't like Bravo (that's cool, everyone is entitled to their choice/opinion) but you try to cling to anything outside stats and current form to make your point.

Also, that kind of extreme logic (x player from X team makes a mistake >> Y teams wins every point (because reasons lël) >> X team fails because of x player) makes me lol everytime. Only an absolutist think in those terms.