Copa del Rey 1/16 final: UD Barbastro - Barca 2-3

[serghei]

You’re deflecting. Again,

1. One of the highest wage bills in the world.
2. One of the most expensive attacking lines in La Liga.

Not about money! We have a very good squad. We look atrocious.

These days I prioritize trolling.

We are La Liga champions. This simple fact is something many of you ignore. I can't ignore that. So...

You just have to man up and stand by the team. It doesn't matter if Xavi is replaced, or if he leaves at the end of the season or not. The next manager is gonna face the same difficulties.

The club's problems atm are institutional. A good manager, like Xavi is, can fix or hide those on short term, like what happened last season. But beyond that, it's very difficult.

Most of the fans want many titles and to play great football. I want that too lol. But I just doubt that it can be done currently. The sooner you realize this, the better.

 

[JamDav1982]

Next manager will face some of the diifculties created by Xavi as wont have the same money to spend on most expensive front line in league etc and could well have to work round players Xavi signed.

Could be a historic mistake by club to pull the levers and let Xavi have that much input and not base enough what team needed most immediately and for the future.

 

[serghei]

Next manager will face some of the diifculties created by Xavi as wont have the same money to spend on most expensive front line in league etc and could well have to work round players Xavi signed.

Could be a historic mistake by club to pull the levers and let Xavi have that much input and not base enough what team needed most immediately and for the future.

Now we're talking. Finally starting to deal with reality. Squad is not that good and serious investments are needed. Finally. Without those levers the club wouldn't have gotten even close to challenging for the title, let alone winning it.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Now we're talking. Finally starting to deal with reality. Squad is not that good and serious investments are needed. Finally. Without those levers the club wouldn't have gotten even close to challenging for the title, let alone winning it.

Lets be honest team is still good and Real is not 2012 or 2017 level, challenging for the title should be easy possible with that squad. A top coach like Pep or Klopp would win it, im 100% sure

 

[JamDav1982]

Now we're talking. Finally starting to deal with reality. Squad is not that good and serious investments are needed. Finally. Without those levers the club wouldn't have gotten even close to challenging for the title, let alone winning it.

Nope squad is good enough to compete for league and far better level than at now...but they will be struggling to improve further when need a new CF etc or wide players with pace and signed too many that Xavi doesnt know how to coach.

This current squad coached by Xavi is not worth decades of being financially hampered and all this was said at time when you claimed all top signings and Xavi made great calls for long term of club etc.

At least you are saying Xavi wasted hundreds of millions on players in your opinion... players claimed were all greta long term signings and most in need positions.

Never know what would happen without leavers...

Sold Griezmann and Dembele for around 60m and signed front players for huge fee who scores less than LDJ and Auba.

But that is beyond point and that league title doesnt point to levers being worth it anyway. Levers were sold on idea and finacially projected for signings like Lewa helping Barca compete for title and go further in Europe.

 

[serghei]

Lets be honest team is still good and Real is not 2012 or 2017 level, challenging for the title should be easy possible with that squad. A top coach like Pep or Klopp would win it, im 100% sure

Which squad? The one before the last summer's transfers? No chance.

 

[serghei]

At least you are saying Xavi wasted hundreds of millions on players in your opinion... players claimed were all greta long term signings and most in need positions.

Nah, weren't wasted, again last season's league title exists, even if some act as if it doesn't. The bigger problem was the 3m spent on players last summer while the team lost 2 starters.

 

[BJJ]

I didn't wa

Now we're talking. Finally starting to deal with reality. Squad is not that good and serious investments are needed. Finally. Without those levers the club wouldn't have gotten even close to challenging for the title, let

Now we're talking. Finally starting to deal with reality. Squad is not that good and serious investments are needed. Finally. Without those levers the club wouldn't have gotten even close to challenging for the title, let alone winning it.

I didn't watch the match but its all too predictable nowadays.
Xavi has to go ASAP.
Yes, the problems are institutional and deep rooted. However, in the short term a good manager can get this team playing good football with good results.
Xavi was given too much power and his signings reflect his muddled, confused state of mind. It has also left us financially hobbled and unable to sign any other players. Ferran, Kounde,Raphinha,Lewandoski , Romeu. All have flopped. This is on him.

 

[JamDav1982]

Nah, werren't wasted. The bigger problem was the 3m spent on players last summer while the team lost 2 starters.

Barca spent more than that when include big salaries given to Inigo and Gundogan etc and now Roque arrived also.

There was always going to be less to spend after huge spending of previous summer.

Spent hundreds of millions on attacking players and scored two more goals in league than season before when it was a whos who of misfits at times in that first part of seasons front line.

 

[BJJ]

Nah, weren't wasted, again last season's league title exists, even if some act as if it doesn't. The bigger problem was the 3m spent on players last summer while the team lost 2 starters.

Your whole defence lies on one lucky title.
Shameless. Why do you never mention the CL and EL humiliations?

 

[ajnotkeith]

The club didn't really make the right decisions with the attackers.

It was more worth keeping Griezmann and Dembele around and paying them massive wages than having Lewa Ferran and Raphinha here.

 

[serghei]

Barca spent more than that when include big salaries given to Inigo and Gundogan etc and now Roque arrived also.

There was always going to be less to spend after huge spending of previous summer.

Spent hundreds of millions on attacking players and scored two more goals in league than season before when it was a whos who of misfits at times in that first part of seasons front line.

Giving big salaries to old players is a club problem. As I said, some institutional decisions were not right for a club in our position. The club has to adapt to current possibilities, and they just didn't do that.

A club like Barca needs big money to function. Can't put it simpler than that. You can't run this club otherwise. Based on La Liga rules, heavy capital injection by a rich owner is the only way out of this hole. It is not considered debt. All other ways of revenue are essentially more debt or selling assets.

Less spend? 3m on players while Madrid sign a young superstar? That's like shooting yourself in the foot.

The club needed another 150-200m invested in the team last summer. To sign a high quality winger and a high quality DM. We got neither of that. It's a simple thing to explain.

This has nothing to do with us underperforming this season. Both are perfectly able to coexist.

 

[JamDav1982]

Giving big salaries to old players is a club problem. As I said, some institutional decisions were not right for a club in our position. The club has to adapt to current possibilities, and they just didn't do that.

Less spend? 3m on players while Madrid sign a young superstar? That's like shooting yourself in the foot.

No those salaries are money the club have chosen to spend on those players.

27m on salaries to Inigo and Gundo is exactly same on books as that split on fees/transfers.

If it is a 'problem' that is of clubs doing and choosing to spend it that way.

Barca spent the biggest money the summer before... huge outlays on likes of Lewa in particular.

 

[serghei]

No those salaries are money the club have chosen to spend on those players.

27m on salaries to Inigo and Gundo is exactly same on books as that split on fees/transfers.

If it is a 'problem' that is of clubs doing and choosing to spend it that way.

Barca spent the biggest money the summer before... huge outlays on likes of Lewa in particular.

You're just missing a big component. Which is heavy transfer fees. Top palayers cost between 60m-100m. Where do you get 150-200m to invest in two starters to replace Busquets and Dembele?

The club simply doesn't have the money. They can't even get the money to sign that Girona dude.

Biggest money on summer before... please... why do you even use these arguments? There are articles out there that have us spending as much money for players as Notthingham Forrest. We spent on players some 375m overall in cumulated transfer fees. Napoli spent on their squad 392m.

 

[ajnotkeith]

You're just missing a big component. Which is heavy transfer fees. Top palayers cost between 60m-100m. Where do you get 150-200m to invest in two starters to replace Busquets - Dembele.

The club simply doesn't have the money. They can't even get the money to sign that Girona dude.

We had two of the best attacking players in the league on the books and let them go for cheap to sign much worse players.

They had very high salaries but cant have been less worth than what we have signed with their absence.