Ernesto Valverde - V1

[Ernesto GOATverde Tejedor]

We need a coach with balls who won't cave under pressure of seniors, mainly.

 

[Raketa10]

Might as well we get in crazy mofo Bielsa. He knows spanish at least

You made me lough which is a hard thing to do today.

 

[Sorin]

We need a coach with balls who won't cave under pressure of seniors, mainly.

- A coach that plays positive, progressive football, not this pathetic excuse reactive shower of shit.
- A coach that doesn't take shit from anyone, not even from Messi.
- Is backed by the board so he can cull the likes of Rakitic, Busi etc. without these entitled divas asking for raises. Added bonus the likes of Mourinho still think they are the cat;s tits so we can fund the next wave of players.

 

[Raketa10]

Funny thing is Barto looked surprised with this outcome like it didn't happen before?!?! What a fucking genius.

 

[JackaL]

Well, not sure about him in big games, but one has to admit that Liverpool is a stronger side and a side for which we have not the squad nor the tactics to play against very well.

Here's a good thread.

https://twitter.com/allas_FCB/status/1118495736851832832?s=20

 

[Judoman]

Why is it even a question of who we should get?

We should get a guy, that plays awesome brand of football, knows how to develop young players and is a competent tactician.
Get the guy who will most probably get in to final CL with a bunch of kids. Period.

And please, stop suggesting Mourinho. I d rather see Valverde stay.

 

[Raketa10]

Well, not sure about him in big games, but one has to admit that Liverpool is a stronger side and a side for which we have not the squad nor the tactics to play against very well.

Here's a good thread.

https://twitter.com/allas_FCB/status/1118495736851832832?s=20

Liverpool is a stronger side? Dude they played without Firminho and Salah? Get a grip! Origi? Wiynaldum? Milner? WTF?

We bought best player Lpool had (he was probably best EPL player in that moment) and Retardo turned him into a clown! What would for example Retardo do with Mane? He would probably look like a Deulofeu in Barca under this idiot. Just stop with this bullshit. Fucking nonsense! Everything Retardo did here is on Messi. Pure and simple. Take him out and he wouldn't win anything in the last two seasons.

 

[Sorin]

Well, not sure about him in big games, but one has to admit that Liverpool is a stronger side and a side for which we have not the squad nor the tactics to play against very well.

Here's a good thread.

https://twitter.com/allas_FCB/status/1118495736851832832?s=20

They have a much, much better coach. Man for man they are inferior to us, hell they played without Salah and Firminho plus Robertson left off injured at the break.

Spare me the pathetic excuses. The majority of the blame goes to the coach period.

Roma last year also had a stronger side I bet.

 

[JackaL]

Did you watch the game? They are physically stronger, showed that in both games. They press high, they pass well. It's not like the classical physically strong but shit playing team, quite the opposite actually. When I say stronger I mean the entire package, players and tactics. Accepting the pressure in the first game was one way to try to solve the problem, which we did in the first leg. But again, they had a couple of clear chances, a goal line save from Rakitic, Salah's shot hitting the post. The 3-0 was not necessarily illustrating what really happened in the first leg. We went with the same tactics and it was not enough.

 

[gregorrin10]

Still no news of this fucker resigning/being fired? I guess we'll have to wait until after the Copa final at least, don't want to rattle the team before the biggest game of the season.

Don't know what they're waiting for, season is over anyway, might as well let our old guard know ASAP that they are DONE running the club and having it easy.

 

[RevoTeller]

Is this dude still here!??

GET OUT FFS

 

[Raketa10]

Did you watch the game? They are physically stronger, showed that in both games. They press high, they pass well. It's not like the classical physically strong but shit playing team, quite the opposite actually. When I say stronger I mean the entire package, players and tactics. Accepting the pressure in the first game was one way to try to solve the problem, which we did in the first leg. But again, they had a couple of clear chances, a goal line save from Rakitic, Salah's shot hitting the post. The 3-0 was not necessarily illustrating what really happened in the first leg. We went with the same tactics and it was not enough.

Yeah and Alba made two unbelievable mistakes yesterday not to mention he should have scored in that chance while he was looking for Messi. What's your point? It's clear as a day our biggest problem yesterday was Valverde and his loser mentality. We have a very hood squad, probably top 3 in the world and for sure stronger than Lpool. Our problem is Valverde and that's obvious for anybody with eyes.

 

[JackaL]

Yeah and Alba made two unbelievable mistakes yesterday not to mention he should have scored in that chance while he was looking for Messi. What's your point? It's clear as a day our biggest problem yesterday was Valverde and his loser mentality. We have a very hood squad, probably top 3 in the world and for sure stronger than Lpool. Our problem is Valverde and that's obvious for anybody with eyes.

My point is, as usual, things are not as simple as they seem to be.

I for one do not believe that coaches have as much influence as the footballing world and most ignorant fans try to believe. Usually, it's quite hard to find any coach effect with the most sophisticated scientific methods. Again, I still believe they have an effect, but their influence is overrated because people are using anecdotal evidence instead of empirically sound arguments.

I am trying to think about a way we could have played against Liverpool with this squad and I have no answer to that question. I am not sure if things (score wise) would have looked differently if we played Arthur instead of Vidal in both games for example, i.e., controlling the game. But if somebody has the tactical answer to that, I am open to hear ideas. This does not mean that I defend Valverde. I think it's a huge disappointment that we gave away 2 clear leads consecutively.

 

[Shayan_barca]

My point is, as usual, things are not as simple as they seem to be.

I for one do not believe that coaches have as much influence as the footballing world and most ignorant fans try to believe. Usually, it's quite hard to find any coach effect with the most sophisticated scientific methods. Again, I still believe they have an effect, but their influence is overrated because people are using anecdotal evidence instead of empirically sound arguments.

I am trying to think about a way we could have played against Liverpool with this squad and I have no answer to that question. I am not sure if things (score wise) would have looked differently if we played Arthur instead of Vidal in both games for example, i.e., controlling the game. But if somebody has the tactical answer to that, I am open to hear ideas. This does not mean that I defend Valverde. I think it's a huge disappointment that we gave away 2 clear leads consecutively.

at this level the coach makes a huge difference with the level of motivation he gives to his players, klopps liverpool were motivated as fuk even though they were down 3-0, he pushed his team which made them run for 90 minutes non stop, valverde stand there with a stone cold face and once in a while squats pretending like he is analysis the game,when we were down 2-0, 3-0, 4-0 he had no reaction, he didnt push the players, didnt tell them anything, a big coach would motivate his team to defend harder, to play harder

 

[Raketa10]

My point is, as usual, things are not as simple as they seem to be.

I for one do not believe that coaches have as much influence as the footballing world and most ignorant fans try to believe. Usually, it's quite hard to find any coach effect with the most sophisticated scientific methods. Again, I still believe they have an effect, but their influence is overrated because people are using anecdotal evidence instead of empirically sound arguments.

I am trying to think about a way we could have played against Liverpool with this squad and I have no answer to that question. I am not sure if things (score wise) would have looked differently if we played Arthur instead of Vidal in both games for example, i.e., controlling the game. But if somebody has the tactical answer to that, I am open to hear ideas. This does not mean that I defend Valverde. I think it's a huge disappointment that we gave away 2 clear leads consecutively.

Against this Lpool you need to have control and possession. You need to slow down the game as much as possible. Things Barca players can't and shouldn't do is defend all of the tome and run like idiots after the ball. It's no coincidence than Vidal was our best player yesterday because that way of playing suited him and ONLY HIM! The funniest thing of all is trying to counter them with our slow attack. That's the biggest joke ever and it's on Valverde!

And yes Arthur should have played because he is the crucial figure if you want to control the game. Playing Vidal-Busi-Raki midfield is a signature of an idiot and that was visible after the first game and he changed nothing.