Ernesto Valverde

vegitot

Senior Member
Real won pretty much every game after Covid break. Nah, not a chance he wins three in a row.

Messis level dropped big time after Covid break too. Valverdes biggest weapon.
I dont know if Valverde could win it or not but he would had far more chances than Setien. He actually knew players well, something Setien didn't.
After Covid, Barca led with 2 points difference then the team failed. Nothing to do with Madrid since the loss at Bernabeu was before Covid.
 
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BarcaOG

Banned
oh, PLEASE let EV go to arsenal. he will fail there like an anvil falling from a skyscraper. PLEASEEEE let EV go there. his incompetence will be clear to all, esp messigician. nothing will disprove messigicians complete BULLSHIT and nonsense more than EV failing EPICLY at arsenal without messi to save his ass.

please please please
 

Katarina1

Banned
if Ernesto does well at Arsenal, I bet forum de amigos will start claiming Arsenal has one of the best squads in the world and that any manager could succeed with Xhaka, Bellerin, and Luiz.
 

Richard.H

Senior Member
if Ernesto does well at Arsenal, I bet forum de amigos will start claiming Arsenal has one of the best squads in the world and that any manager could succeed with Xhaka, Bellerin, and Luiz.

If he does well with them, I'll throw in the towel. However I'm fully expecting him to be slightly better or just the same as Arteta. Arsenal's season has been a disaster so with all due respect it's not a huge achievement to do slightly better than Arteta.
 

BarcaOG

Banned
If he does well with them, I'll throw in the towel. However I'm fully expecting him to be slightly better or just the same as Arteta. Arsenal's season has been a disaster so with all due respect it's not a huge achievement to do slightly better than Arteta.

if EV goes there arsenal might have a good 5-7 games, as is usually the case when teams change managers. it happened with emery, whom i rate higher than ev, and it happened with Solskjaer (whom i do not). but believe me, you give EV 12-15 games at arsenal it will show just how bad he is.
 

vegitot

Senior Member
if EV goes there arsenal might have a good 5-7 games, as is usually the case when teams change managers. it happened with emery, whom i rate higher than ev, and it happened with Solskjaer (whom i do not). but believe me, you give EV 12-15 games at arsenal it will show just how bad he is.

He won 3-0 over Juventus at Camp Nou though.
 

BarcaOG

Banned
He won 3-0 over Juventus at Camp Nou though.

and? he lost 4-0 at rome and 4-0 at liverpool. hes a complete failure. and this is WITH messi. lol, if he has bellerin and co to work with...arsenal fan tv will make millions just cussing at useless EV
 

vegitot

Senior Member
and? he lost 4-0 at rome and 4-0 at liverpool. hes a complete failure. and this is WITH messi. lol, if he has bellerin and co to work with...arsenal fan tv will make millions just cussing at useless EV

Koeman with Messi loses 0-3 to Juventus at Camp Nou though
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Are you seriously comparing Ballon Dor Messi to the current one we have? It's not close.

Argument can be made that Messi was at better shape and form under EV.
I mean if people attribute every player failure to him, then should not player who looked at his sharpest and then underperform immediately after he leaves be attributed to him too?
 

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