Messigician
Senior Member
Firstly although I have been memed for it I think selling Suarez is a bad idea.
Many have said well Griezmann will play in his natural position...
So it's going to be Messi cam Griezmann striker Coutinho LW?
Or Messi Striker Griezmann CAM?
You see the problem Messi and Grrizmamn both play in eachothers best position as a CF.
Messi relies on a strikerto draw opposing defenders away, open space, make dummy runs play 1 2s Etc.
Paying 17m to terminate Suarez is a huge mistake unless we have an actual striker like Halland lined up (we should next year) then having 4 number 10S Griezmann Coutinho Messi Martinez is tactical suicide.
Now on to 4221...
YI stop acting like 4231 is this revolutionary formation we have been missing out on.
Valverde is well aware of the formation and used it when he had Dembele healthy and was chasing a goal.
The formation has serious flaws defensively, if FDJ and Pjanic are going to be our pivots we need the rest of the team to work extremely hard to make up the lack of midfield control we will have. There's a reason Klopp went from a 4231 to dominating with a 433. They became so much more solid defensively with it and didn't leak goals left and right.
The formation works for Bayern due to how disciplined the players are and hardworking too. They have actual pace to hit you on the counter and can play direct.
Coutinho Messi and Griezmann nor Martinez are not the players for this formation only Dembele is which is exactly why Valverde only used this formation when he had him available.
Fyi Koeman has a number 10 fetish according to many Everton fans he signed multiple 10s only to try and accommodate them all in 4231 and conceding 4 goals per game before his sacking.
Many have said well Griezmann will play in his natural position...
So it's going to be Messi cam Griezmann striker Coutinho LW?
Or Messi Striker Griezmann CAM?
You see the problem Messi and Grrizmamn both play in eachothers best position as a CF.
Messi relies on a strikerto draw opposing defenders away, open space, make dummy runs play 1 2s Etc.
Paying 17m to terminate Suarez is a huge mistake unless we have an actual striker like Halland lined up (we should next year) then having 4 number 10S Griezmann Coutinho Messi Martinez is tactical suicide.
Now on to 4221...
YI stop acting like 4231 is this revolutionary formation we have been missing out on.
Valverde is well aware of the formation and used it when he had Dembele healthy and was chasing a goal.
The formation has serious flaws defensively, if FDJ and Pjanic are going to be our pivots we need the rest of the team to work extremely hard to make up the lack of midfield control we will have. There's a reason Klopp went from a 4231 to dominating with a 433. They became so much more solid defensively with it and didn't leak goals left and right.
The formation works for Bayern due to how disciplined the players are and hardworking too. They have actual pace to hit you on the counter and can play direct.
Coutinho Messi and Griezmann nor Martinez are not the players for this formation only Dembele is which is exactly why Valverde only used this formation when he had him available.
Fyi Koeman has a number 10 fetish according to many Everton fans he signed multiple 10s only to try and accommodate them all in 4231 and conceding 4 goals per game before his sacking.
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