Financial Fair Play (News, debates, opinions, Platini, etc.)

[Bertus]

How many teams in Spain, Germany and France outwith Barca, Real, PSG and Bayern can even keep their own players or compete for league?

Barely any.

So what is the great advantage to them?

More money.

The french clubs can invest more money than before. They built new stadiums, new training ground, and have better youth system.

You won't find many french clubs saying PSG is bad. The only president who complained about PSG did it because "PSG is always first" but didn't deny he gets more money since QSI arrived.

 

[JamDav1982]

These clubs are thinking short term only. If not a single club in their league is able to keep their best players, then all clubs will suffer in terms of revenue as the league is less attractive. But sure, everyone is more equally poor so it is "fairer".

You assume there are potential owners wanting to pour hundreds of millions of euros into other Spanish teams.

There isnt.

 

[Bertus]

Guys, gonna move the discussion to the FFP thread, brb, and please stop posting for a bit.

 

[Jombi]

You assume there are potential owners wanting to pour hundreds of millions of euros into other Spanish teams.

There isnt.

How do you know that? Of course investors are far less likely to invest now with the FFP rules. But if the FFP rules are scrapped, there are lots of very attractive investments in Spain.

 

[JamDav1982]

More money.

The french clubs can invest more money than before. They built new stadiums, new training ground, and have better youth system.

You won't find many french clubs saying PSG is bad. The only president who complained about PSG did it because "PSG is always first" but didn't deny he gets more money since QSI arrived.

How much money are teams making in France off back of PSG being in league?

Half the championship teams in England have great stadiums and training grounds but are going down the drain as cant compete on pitch where it matters.

 

[JamDav1982]

How do you know that? Of course investors are far less likely to invest now with the FFP rules. But if the FFP rules are scrapped, there are lots of very attractive investments in Spain.

Well there were next to no investors in Spanish football before FFP and there has been more since it has come about.

So no evidence there is anyone wanting to pour in hundreds of millions.

The danger in Spain is that they come along plough in hundreds of millions and still never come close to Barca or Real and it is a waste of time.

 

[Bertus]

[MENTION=6099]JamDav1982[/MENTION] [MENTION=19793]Jombi[/MENTION]

I know you guys are passionate, but what don't you understand in "wait a bit before posting"?

Next time I'll have to lock the thread first because no one dares to read

 

[JamDav1982]

[MENTION=6099]JamDav1982[/MENTION] [MENTION=19793]Jombi[/MENTION]

I know you guys are passionate, but what don't you understand in "wait a bit before posting"?

Next time I'll have to lock the thread first because no one dares to read

Haha I never read it before I posted!

 

[Bertus]

How much money are teams making in France off back of PSG being in league?

Half the championship teams in England have great stadiums and training grounds but are going down the drain as cant compete on pitch where it matters.

Won't search for numbers at midnight sorry.

Everyone here says the same things. Clubs, medias, etc.

If you want to believe they are all hallucinating, it's ok too. But sorry, won't spend my night seeking precise numbers because you don't accept what all the parties are saying here.

 

[Jombi]

Well there were next to no investors in Spanish football before FFP and there has been more since it has come about.

So no evidence there is anyone wanting to pour in hundreds of millions.

The danger in Spain is that they come along plough in hundreds of millions and still never come close to Barca or Real and it is a waste of time.

The two Sevilla clubs are obvious candidates for foreign investors if FFP rules are scrapped. They are sleeping giants. The same with Atletico Madrid. And Malaga would spend far more money if not for FFP. The fact that foreign investors have come in even under these highly restrictive FFP rules shows how attractive La Liga investment is. Its only through outside investors that clubs would be able to keep their best players and mount a challenge in Europe and at home on a regular basis.

 

[Jair Ventura]

How much money are teams making in France off back of PSG being in league?

Half the championship teams in England have great stadiums and training grounds but are going down the drain as cant compete on pitch where it matters.

You can find the value of the new TV deals through Google. You can also Google all the French clubs that are opening or renovating new stadiums(almost half), and any potential investors interested purchasing clubs(Bordeaux). Why do you think Lacazette and Fekir have yet to be sold? Or Martial, Silva, Carrasco, or Kondogbia from Monaco?

PSG has been awesome for French football from a financial standpoint.

 

[Bertus]

[MENTION=6099]JamDav1982[/MENTION]

what about waiting for June 30 to see what Platini will announce?

It's like you expect him to get rid of FFP, he didn't say that, he wants to amend it.

 

[Bertus]

You can find the value of the new TV deals through Google. You can also Google all the French clubs that are opening or renovating new stadiums(almost half), and any potential investors interested purchasing clubs(Bordeaux). Why do you think Lacazette and Fekir have yet to be sold? Or Martial, Silva, Carrasco, or Kondogbia from Monaco?

PSG has been awesome for French football.

Chinese just bought FC Sochaux too!

 

[Jombi]

[MENTION=6099]JamDav1982[/MENTION] [MENTION=19793]Jombi[/MENTION]

I know you guys are passionate, but what don't you understand in "wait a bit before posting"?

Next time I'll have to lock the thread first because no one dares to read

lol, sorry, i was typing while you posted it.

 

[JamDav1982]

The two Sevilla clubs are obvious candidates for foreign investors if FFP rules are scrapped. They are sleeping giants. The same with Atletico Madrid. The fact that foreign investors have come in even under these highly restrictive FFP rules shows how attractive La Liga investment is. Its only through outside investors that other clubs would be able to keep their best players and mount a challenge in Europe and at home.

Why did no one invest before the FFP rules were introduced if that is the case?

La Liga is not all that attractive for huge investment. If it was they would have been there long ago.