Franck Kessie

iniestaGOAT

Senior Member
Put Kessie in any half decent team and he will do well. This 8s all on Xavi.
Only three players have looked good this season. Lewy,Kounde and possibly Ter Stegen. Maybe Balde but we haven't seen enough of him. The rest have struggled cause Xavi is clueless. He doesn't have proper tactics,line ups are shit and players are asked to do the opposite of what their strengths are.

Watch your mouth son

Xavi is god
 

Sooke

Member
Question people should be asking is why was he great at Milan and underwhelming here. Now before you go bad mouthing Serie A just have a look at La Liga.
The answer is obvious. Xavi is the problem.

No one can bad mount Serie A because they have Milan, Inter, Juve and Napoli who are all contenders for the scudeto. In La Liga are only Real M and Barca and in every 10 years Atletico.

Calciomercato.com - Kessie wants to go back to Italy in January and has already offered himself to several clubs including Milan.

It's not ideal but I would probably let him go for a low or negligible fee if he wants to leave as Xavi clearly won't utilise him well and he has quite a high wage for a benchwarmer.

I will let him go even for free.

In another post I have mentioned that from all 8 players Xavi acquired only Lewa and Kounde have the quality for Barcelona. But this happens when you get free agents that no one else wants. And of course, when you don't know how to use them properly.
 

feggydinho

Senior Member
Question people should be asking is why was he great at Milan and underwhelming here. Now before you go bad mouthing Serie A just have a look at La Liga.
The answer is obvious. Xavi is the problem.

He's okay but not all that great, I would take Thomas Partey over him without blinking.
 

Barcilliant

Senior Member
Xavi is an idiot who has no clue how to coach. Put Kessie in any half decent team and he will do well.
Nearly everyone was satisfied with the summer signings bar a few like Alonso and Bellend.
Lewy,Kounde, Christensen,Kessie and Raphinia were all considered great business by many. Personally I had reservations about Raphinia but I digress.
Now people want to bitch about the players when clearly Xavi is the problem. You cannot have world class players in every position unless you're an oil club with an unlimited budget. Once in a while you may luck out and get the perfect storm of great transfers and great Masia players coming together. Otherwise you're going to have to deal with having a few positions where the players are good but not work class.
Our most pressing needs are a proper DM and right back. Who knows how we can afford to spend.
 

Givenchy

Senior Member
Xavi is an idiot who has no clue how to coach. Put Kessie in any half decent team and he will do well.
Nearly everyone was satisfied with the summer signings bar a few like Alonso and Bellend.
Lewy,Kounde, Christensen,Kessie and Raphinia were all considered great business by many. Personally I had reservations about Raphinia but I digress.
Now people want to bitch about the players when clearly Xavi is the problem. You cannot have world class players in every position unless you're an oil club with an unlimited budget. Once in a while you may luck out and get the perfect storm of great transfers and great Masia players coming together. Otherwise you're going to have to deal with having a few positions where the players are good but not work class.
Our most pressing needs are a proper DM and right back. Who knows how we can afford to spend.

There's a trend of players joining Barca and becoming shit, it's been happening for years now and we continue to blame the players but in reality it's clueless manager after clueless manager.

A decent manager can still get something out of the average players also but we are fooled to believe only world class players in every position will allow us to challenge.
 

Barcilliant

Senior Member
There's a trend of players joining Barca and becoming shit, it's been happening for years now and we continue to blame the players but in reality it's clueless manager after clueless manager.

A decent manager can still get something out of the average players also but we are fooled to believe only world class players in every position will allow us to challenge.

This!
 

malvolio

Senior Member
There's a trend of players joining Barca and becoming shit, it's been happening for years now and we continue to blame the players but in reality it's clueless manager after clueless manager.

A decent manager can still get something out of the average players also but we are fooled to believe only world class players in every position will allow us to challenge.

Nope, there is no trend brother. People like to think it is Bar?a that breaks those players. In reality they are just found out at the highest level in football. Or had to compete with some legendary players in their prime.

Let's write down the list of players we sold and how many of them did better and went on to have great careers in other clubs?

Aside from obvious cases like Yaya Toure, who couldn't get a game here because we had better players around. Same goes for Thiago or Fabregas.

But I agree we had lots of poor/mediocre managers after Pep. Actually all of them.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Nope, there is no trend brother. People like to think it is Bar?a that breaks those players. In reality they are just found out at the highest level in football. Or had to compete with some legendary players in their prime.

Let's write down the list of players we sold and how many of them did better and went on to have great careers in other clubs?

Aside from obvious cases like Yaya Toure, who couldn't get a game here because we had better players around. Same goes for Thiago or Fabregas.

But I agree we had lots of poor/mediocre managers after Pep. Actually all of them.

Clueless as always

Take any Arsenal player one by one. Do you think they will do better at Barca than the ones we have?
LOL
Take 8 or 9 from Liverpool starters, take all City players bar De Bryune and Bernardo and do the same.

No, they will be as shit and even more than the ones we have
Same applies to most top sides
It's the system and the tactical nous of their managers that makes them.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Xavi is an idiot who has no clue how to coach. Put Kessie in any half decent team and he will do well.
Nearly everyone was satisfied with the summer signings bar a few like Alonso and Bellend.
Lewy,Kounde, Christensen,Kessie and Raphinia were all considered great business by many. Personally I had reservations about Raphinia but I digress.
Now people want to bitch about the players when clearly Xavi is the problem. You cannot have world class players in every position unless you're an oil club with an unlimited budget. Once in a while you may luck out and get the perfect storm of great transfers and great Masia players coming together. Otherwise you're going to have to deal with having a few positions where the players are good but not work class.
Our most pressing needs are a proper DM and right back. Who knows how we can afford to spend.

Agree about Kessie.
The player has a certain skillset that could become elite under the right tactical setup. He is not a classic 'Barca type' interior like Pedri.
The way Xavi uses him, at best he gets no more than 50% out of him.

Partly that applies for Raphinia as well, who is not as confortable out wide dribbling past players like Dembele
Kounde and Lewa are playing their positions
 

feggydinho

Senior Member
There's a trend of players joining Barca and becoming shit, it's been happening for years now and we continue to blame the players but in reality it's clueless manager after clueless manager.

A decent manager can still get something out of the average players also but we are fooled to believe only world class players in every position will allow us to challenge.

Kessie isn't it, I saw this long ago and don't know why we signed him. He's clearly not good at making progressive passes freely but makes good runs into the box. He's also not good at distribution, plus quite slow. He's not a bad player, but isn't elite.
 

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