Hans-Dieter Flick

[companyofcules]

Those players have those numbers because of his system, because he is focusing all on scoring goals despite their quality.
That's why we expose ourselves. To get those numbers, but sometimes they are useless because they depend very much on being fresh and overwhelming their opponents.

If you can't see this we should close the debate and we should debate rugby.
Lewandowski is a dead man walking, not anywhere near a world class striker. Zero talent, slow, wins zero duels, can't attack the box, mediocre in airspace.
His only qualities are shooting, but not fine shooting, that's why is poor 1 v1 and reading the game.
Raphinha is a very hard working lad with some talent but not more than a bench player in the good days.
As for the Shark. I refuse to comment.

 

[companyofcules]

And the team is build by Xavi. So it's not about deflecting blame, it's about the objective reality. Flick got the scraps of Xavi, not even Felix or Cancelo + Olmo and made the team look premium, in certain games.

For our mediocre team getting the buss parked was the best option always, so Simone or Tuchel were the sane options. But since we depend on the money of the masses that want good football, we went full Banzai with Flick.
It's a miracle what Flick created with this low cost team = dominating far better teams in big games and not getting 7up like the paper will suggest when you are a piss poor swarming far better teams.

 

[MontenegrinCuler]

Those players have those numbers because of his system, because he is focusing all on scoring goals despite their quality.
That's why we expose ourselves. To get those numbers, but sometimes they are useless because they depend very much on being fresh and overwhelming their opponents.

If you can't see this we should close the debate and we should debate rugby.
Lewandowski is a dead man walking, not anywhere near a world class striker. Zero talent, slow, wins zero duels, can't attack the box, mediocre in airspace.
His only qualities are shooting, but not fine shooting, that's why is poor 1 v1 and reading the game.
Raphinha is a very hard working lad with some talent but not more than a bench player in the good days.
As for the Shark. I refuse to comment.

Agree with a lot of your points here but Raphinha being a bench player is downright ridiculous lol

 

[companyofcules]

Don't get upset on me but my beef with Xavi is getting this bums in our attack on big money.
So how the f do you expect me to rate them higher because they got some good numbers under Flick. Flick is probably the most offensive coach in the history of modern football. They should score every damn game if they will be premium players.

 

[companyofcules]

Agree with a lot of your points here but Raphinha being a bench player is downright ridiculous lol

What are we talking, Raphinha will bench Messi, Ronaldinho, Villa, Henry, Neymar, Laudrup, Iniesta, Figo?
Maybe Giuly, Overmars given his workload, but only with a german coach.
The lad is not made for Barcelona, but he is working his ass for the team to get the results.
The whole team is working very hard except Lewandowski, Balde and FDJ.
But they are mediocre as a whole and no system can fix mediocre, except parking the buss.

 

[Messigician]

This forum has gotten toxic

 

[serghei]

You don't understand football and it's a waste of time. Probably from Eastern Europe too after the quality of your logic.
To get those results with mediocre players you need to play at 120% so it's natural the decline will come after a while vs small teams.
Or you think Celta is better than Real?

I generally tolerate a level of verbal or written aggression if there's at least some fun to be had conversing with that person. There isn't in this case.

 

[Temptation]

This forum has gotten toxic

Time to unleash the OG. You know you want it!

 

[Rory]

We've dropped 6+ points from players missing piss easy chances, we've also dropped some points by being overly aggressive when we didn't need to. Unfortunately people with agendas on this forum make out all points were dropped for the latter. As a result there can be no genuine discussion. Saying that, the other side throwing insults is even more pathetic, especially when coming from self-appointed football connoisseurs. Wise up lads.

Anyway could point out Xavi had MATS in goal, who conceded 13 less goals than expected in the title winning year (we won 11 games 1-0), insane stat for a goalkeeper of a club that is supposed to not concede many chances. But even missing that we have a second rate keeper in goal, no allowance for that though.

But at the end of the day, you're mostly judged by results at this club.

 

[Windhook]

@companyofcules

One's country has nothing to do with the football knowledge of an individual. You are overstepping some lines, even beyond football with that statement.

 

[companyofcules]

@companyofcules

One's country has nothing to do with the football knowledge of an individual. You are overstepping some lines, even beyond football with that stastatements.

Eastern Europe lacks basic safety nets in terms of logic. Is not about being brainwashed to ignore facts as in the west but being a backwater society where debating leads to nowhere if ever done. People don't test their ideas. From politics to bogans.
That's why you can see failed countries after failed countries despite having no real issues.
You can't say a system that hammers huge teams with a poor team is a bad one because you lost some games against fodder.
Is that a system problem? Because if hammering good teams will be more easy you will end up winning UCL year after year with Celta.

As in a very demanding system you need some margins of error and replacement pieces. There is none of that, we barely have a working 11 burning themselves to get premium football.

 

[companyofcules]

@companyofcules

One's country has nothing to do with the football knowledge of an individual. You are overstepping some lines, even beyond football with that statement.

Take it as in Americans not knowing geography. Of course many people in US know geography, but when you hear " Europe is a country" you can very much pin point the origin of the concept to USA.

 

[Total-Football]

Verdict so far is positive for the first half of the season all things considered.

Biggest challenge for me second half is finding an alternative to highline and inshallah against specific teams, we don't want to be one dimensional all the time. We need to add a variation to that.

 

[mc_lovin]

Positive verdict my ass. Most embarassing League season in recent memory.

 

[Barcaman]

Remember 10 years ago when we hit a bad patch under Lucho and he benched Messi, stirred the shit up, team got that fire under their ass and won the treble 6 months later?

Who is the man who will light the fire now? Flick is still smiling in press conferences and Catalan media still rides players dicks.

Kounde, Balde, Lewa play like shit never get benched. Unless it's some weird rotation pattern where he also plays Martin for couple of matches even though being shit. That idiot Ferran finally scores couple and gets benched for next 3 matches.

I see no pattern of merit in his selection. Probably counts too much on his physical coaches for selections but even then it's questionable as Raphinha clearly said we lost some games due to fatigue.

And then there's a glaring hole in the deck which is Lewandowski who plays way too much for his age and the reason our defensive tactics have to be build to accommodate his age.
Gavi is right to be pissed as is any player who runs himself to the ground.

At this point it seems someone really needs to go public and stir the shit up.