Ivan Rakitić

dakt

Active member
None of our players are working

I understand that. That's mostly on Lucho, but I still expect some class from our midfielders.
And even in some good games he was average. Yes, he's doing a whole lot of defending, but we need to move the game forward and he fails in that segment.
 

dakt

Active member
The way the team is playing, I doubt even verratti would make a difference right now. Need to change the coach first.

Verratti would make a difference. Dribble, turn 180, finds open space, pass. These things are pretty hard for Raki.
 
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FlaFCB

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Verratti would make a difference. Dribble, turn 180, finds open space, pass. These things are pretty hard for Raki.

Maybe, but even Iniesta and Busi look bad at times, like today. I don't think it's by chance.
 

gasgas

Senior Member
Yeah most of what we say on Rakitic is based on his performance two seasons ago.


For us Barca fans it's very hard to live on the present
We live on the treble seasons and the 2010/11 season
 

serghei

Senior Member
Players are bound to play worse when tactics are not what they need to be. Poor form, yes, but he can play better if actually used better.
 

gasgas

Senior Member
don't even understand how lucho is giving him so many minutes after shit performance game after game. shouldve been benched for rafinha or denis.

I thought the Barcaforum consesus was that Lucho is unfair on Rakitic by benching him for Denis and Gomes
 
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FlaFCB

Guest
All Rakitic does now is to play as a rb. He's always defending, going up and down, too wide. Gomes' positioning was even weirder. No player is doing well there lately. Too many players underperforming at once, which points to the problem being something else.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
So, we when Rakitic was in our team 2 Months ago=we played like crap
Then we benched Rakitic and played Gomes or Denis=and our team started to play better in a few matches
Now, Rakitic is back in the starting 11=a team is worse than ever

An interesting pattern.

He will be one of the first sales in the summer, imo.

As gasgas said, we soooo live in a past.
Rakitic hasn't played a good match since winter of 2015' probably.
 

Messi983

Senior Member
So, we when Rakitic was in our team 2 Months ago=we played like crap
Then we benched Rakitic and played Gomes or Denis=and our team started to play better in a few matches
Now, Rakitic is back in the starting 11=a team is worse than ever

An interesting pattern.

I think it's unfair to Rakitić to look at things this way if you don't also consider who our opponents were when we played those few good matches in December and how those opponents played against us. None of Gladbach or Espanyol were high pressing like crazy as Bilbao did yesterday in 1st half. We had problems against this type of teams even in the past when we were better equipped to play against those teams so yesterday's struggles didn't surprise me at all.

I'm not defending Rakitić. He was bad as was the rest of the team, especially in 1st half. But would we really look like we did against let's say (unmotivated) Gladbach if Denis or Gomes would start yesterday in his place? I don't think so. I still like both of their longterm potential but right now they are not difference makers in our midfield. And to be fair, "system" we play makes it really hard for any midfielder to really be that. It worked in treble season because MSN was on fire in second half of the season, this season only Messi is close to his level while Ney and Suarez are way below that so we can't find the same kind of success. I'm still optimistic that we can turn this season around but some things will have to change drastically.

Also, it's impossible to blame just one or two players if whole team is playing bad. We would be extremely lucky and not concerned now if our biggest problem would be that only Rakitić or only Suarez or only Neymar were in bad form (I won't mention Messi here because his form has the biggest influence on team). If 8 or 9 players are playing close to their level we have enough quality to get away with one or two players performing bad in most matches. But if 8 or 9 players are playing way below their level then we can only hope that Messi will have one of his moment of genius and save us. That's the position we were in yesterday and also in most matches this season.
 
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Vilarrubi

New member
So, we when Rakitic was in our team 2 Months ago=we played like crap
Then we benched Rakitic and played Gomes or Denis=and our team started to play better in a few matches
Now, Rakitic is back in the starting 11=a team is worse than ever

An interesting pattern.

He will be one of the first sales in the summer, imo.

As gasgas said, we soooo live in a past.
Rakitic hasn't played a good match since winter of 2015' probably.

I agree we're poor with him, but we played poor with Denis and Gomes too, it was Iniesta coming back which made those two look better in some games. Plus Bilbao are beasts at home.. not the easiest game to come back in no-one performed well and i'm sure Denis and Gomes would have done no better.
 

ATLBarcaFan

Senior Member
Love Rakitic, but he has really struggled. He was awful yesterday and it didn't help that Iniesta and Busi were also trash. Performance was just so disappointing to watch
 

Ghostmaster

Danger Ahead
We should try him as RB and play Denis in his position, it basically would be just formality because he is already playing as RB.
 

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