Fati_Future_BallonDor
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He should become the 30+ Ronaldo version, the fox in the box. Unlike Neymar who could still create and dribble without pace Mbappi relies too much on his speed which decreased over the last 2 years.
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Fati_Future_BallonDor
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He doesnt mean you i think, there were some other guys who claimed that 😬
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Does mbappe know how to score from headers?
Temptation
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The GOAT summed it up well. But yeah Hazard and Neymar are more talented, complete and loved by purists. Many people in forums say Salah doesn't impress them based on the eye test.
Maradona37
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Hazard and Neymar were more playmaking yes. But I never understood people who said Salah played like a glorified poacher. True he comes more alive in the final third but his incisive passing an dribbling were superb back in the day. I never got why people acted like he just hung around the area waiting for chances, it is bollocks to anyone that actually watched him. Yes, he done that too, but that's because he can do everything.
Same goes for Ronaldo. Obviously just a passable playmaker, but in his prime he did more than just wait for tap-ins. Worse passer than Salah, but still ok.
El Gato
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Haha nonsense
Cant even keep up with your own post as you write it seems - made up a 'playmaking winger' requirement in own head, blamed me as if I asked about it and proceeded to claim I'm 'defensive'
But while we at it - he playmakes all the time - gave Mbappe a goal on silver platter this past weekend
More key passes than your boy Salah per 90 mins of play in every comp for one
Has quite literally had double digit assists in all comps every season bar I think 19/20 where Zidane opted to bench him for a lot of it
Playmaking has never been one of his problems even - he's been the most effective player in the squad at progressing the ball and creating danger since as far back as 2019. His problem until Carlo was that he couldnt get a goal or even a shot on target - not that he 'wasnt playmaking'
Maradona37
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Haha nonsense
Cant even keep up with your own post as you write it seems - made up a 'playmaking winger' requirement in own head, blamed me as if I asked about it and proceeded to claim I'm 'defensive'
But while we at it - he playmakes all the time - gave Mbappe a goal on silver platter this past weekend
More key passes than your boy Salah per 90 mins of play in every comp for one
Playmaking has never been one of his problems even - he's been the most effective player in the squad at progressing the ball and creating danger since as far back as 2019. His problem until Carlo was that he couldnt get a goal or even a shot on target - not that he 'wasnt playmaking'
Whatever pal - look how angry you're getting because someone offered some gentle criticism of a guy you will never even meet. I even said he's a great player and you're still posting like a girl on her period defending her favourite boybander.I said he was fairly one dimensional, and I stand by it, trying to make him out to be a playmaker extraordinaire based on a few stats is beyond ridiculous.
Also, assists and playmaking aren't the same thing. They can be but they often aren't. Classic rookie mistake is equating someone who gets lots of assists with being a playmaker. Is Ronaldo a better playmaker than Iniesta because he got more assists? Is Suarez a better one than Xavi. Forwards et loads of assists because they play closer to goal.
Anyone can see Salah is a better playmaker with a better pass in his locker than Vinicius, regardless of your 'key passes' stat (which is likely for this season only).
Ultimately, I have seen plenty of him, and have never seen him make the sort of passes Neymar or Hazard or Salah have in their locker. So shove your key passes stat, son.
Total-Football
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Jokes aside this is dirty from Van dijk. Textbook yellow card for anti-jeu
Temptation
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Game's gone!
Come on! That's not a yellow. It's a hard shoulder barge. Mbappe didn't even complain.
El Gato
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Aye cant keep up with basic stuff as started from conclusion of 'he doesnt play like Neymar' and running with what fits
I said he was fairly one dimensional, and I stand by it, trying to make him out to be a playmaker extraordinaire based on a few stats is beyond ridiculous.
Also, assists and playmaking aren't the same thing. They can be but they often aren't. Classic rookie mistake is equating someone who gets lots of assists with being a playmaker. Is Ronaldo a better playmaker than Iniesta because he got more assists? Is Suarez a better one than Xavi. Forwards et loads of assists because they play closer to goal.
Anyone can see Salah is a better playmaker with a better pass in his locker than Vinicius, regardless of your 'key passes' stat (which is likely for this season only).
Ultimately, I have seen plenty of him, and have never seen him make the sort of passes Neymar or Hazard or Salah have in their locker. So shove your key passes stat, son.
Playmakes all the time, like many other top wingers
Calm down boyo - first Bellingham aint it, now Vinicius putting 10+ goals on a platter to other players just about every season to date while also setting them up deeper down more often than others aint it
Haha
Maradona37
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I mentioned Salah originally, it was Tempt who brought up neymar. Either way, I maintain that Neymar, Hazard and Salah have more layers to their games than Vini and Mbappe, and I think you'd have to have lost the plot to disagree.
I never said they 'ain't it'. You have reading comprehension issues. I said Bellingham is a quality player but has flaws to his game, which are getting exposed and were indeed exposed ruthlessly last night. I said Vinicius is a great player but rather repetitive in his actions, even though it is effective. Hence more one-dimensional. Never said Vini especiall isn't one of the best in the world.
Your problem is you equate less dimensional with me criticising his quality as a player. It's not.
And again you are equating assists with playmaking, despite me telling you aren't the same thing. Haaland gets plenty of assists, is he a playmaker too? Or does he just play close to goal and play basic passes for other forwards? Another loss for you, mate.
But keep twerking for assists and 'key passes stats' son. That definitely tells you who has the more incisive pass in their locker. It's certainly not as good as watching all 5 of them to judge.
I never said they 'ain't it'. You have reading comprehension issues. I said Bellingham is a quality player but has flaws to his game, which are getting exposed and were indeed exposed ruthlessly last night. I said Vinicius is a great player but rather repetitive in his actions, even though it is effective. Hence more one-dimensional. Never said Vini especiall isn't one of the best in the world.
Your problem is you equate less dimensional with me criticising his quality as a player. It's not.
And again you are equating assists with playmaking, despite me telling you aren't the same thing. Haaland gets plenty of assists, is he a playmaker too? Or does he just play close to goal and play basic passes for other forwards? Another loss for you, mate.
But keep twerking for assists and 'key passes stats' son. That definitely tells you who has the more incisive pass in their locker. It's certainly not as good as watching all 5 of them to judge.
RedxMAK
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Ngl I Felt Like Mbappe Wasn’t Actually Gonna Do Much When He Joined Real Madrid (After Seeing His Disasterclass Performance Against Us In The Quarters Where A Red Card Rescued His Club’s UCL Run) And Yeh I Was Kind Of Scared When They Played Atalanta But That All Got Diminished When The Mallorca Game Happened
jamrock
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Find it funny that people are now naming Salah as a complete winger. Because few years back, football purists(who claim to understand the game better than others but ironically parrot the same cliched wannabe expert narratives) used to call Salah one dimensional and give examples like Hazard and Neymar.
I'm not sure what you mean when you added Neymar to that list.
A bridge too far maybe.
Temptation
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