Liverpool

[Horatio]

disgusting “fans”

 

[Messigician]

Titanium Klopp was losing titles with 99 points

Fergie wouldn’t have won a single title in the Pep era

 

[Birdy]

I think Klopp created a generational Liverpool team though despite the lack of maximising silverware potential.

It's probably my bias, but I think history will look more fondly upon the peak of his Liverpool team and winning the first EPL in 20+ years when even compared with Pep's City juggernaut despite their league tally. Pep's City never really had a dominating CL win compared to Klopps for example, and will always have the asterix of endless spending power and 115 charges. Just like Pep's playing career that despite being cleared always has the asterix of Nandropep.

Real justice will be stripping City of all the titles they won by cheating.

That means giving Klopp the titles for 2019 and 2022,
Arteta the title for 2024,
and annulling completely the 2018, 2021, and 2023
(like they did in Italy with Juventus for the 2005 and 2006 titles)

Same for CL and all other titles. 2023 CL should go to Inter, for instance

 

[khaled_a_d]

I think Klopp created a generational Liverpool team though despite the lack of maximising silverware potential.

It's probably my bias, but I think history will look more fondly upon the peak of his Liverpool team and winning the first EPL in 20+ years when even compared with Pep's City juggernaut despite their league tally. Pep's City never really had a dominating CL win compared to Klopps for example, and will always have the asterix of endless spending power and 115 charges. Just like Pep's playing career that despite being cleared always has the asterix of Nandropep.

I mean, the same could be said about Chelsea under Mourinho, plus awful football. He had endless resources from a Russian Oligarch.

Pep made City a dominant force in a way EPL haven't seen before. His time will always ve seen fondly in years.

 

[Catta]

Real justice will be stripping City of all the titles they won by cheating.

That means giving Klopp the titles for 2019 and 2022,
Arteta the title for 2024,
and annulling completely the 2018, 2021, and 2023
(like they did in Italy with Juventus for the 2005 and 2006 titles)

Same for CL and all other titles. 2023 CL should go to Inter, for instance

Why annull those other titles. Just so United doesn't win them and have more titles than Liverpool.

 

[Don Juan Laporta Estruch]

Ouch! There might be some truth to this but seems really disrespectful to Klopp. One thing is for sure, Arne would have slaughtered Madrid with the teams we had in recent years. Klopp just couldn't get past Madrid for some weird reason. @Birdy @KingLeo10 thoughts?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1870077629904114156

Translation : Some players know that Trent's non existent defending cost them in the big cup finals. Slot's method of not giving Trent full minutes against top sides with elite wingers will help Liverpool in future big games.

Big stain on Klopp's managerial CV that he could not see this and blindly trusted Trent

 

[jamrock]

I think Klopp created a generational Liverpool team though despite the lack of maximising silverware potential.

It's probably my bias, but I think history will look more fondly upon the peak of his Liverpool team and winning the first EPL in 20+ years when even compared with Pep's City juggernaut despite their league tally. Pep's City never really had a dominating CL win compared to Klopps for example, and will always have the asterix of endless spending power and 115 charges. Just like Pep's playing career that despite being cleared always has the asterix of Nandropep.

Fonly is an interesting world.

But naah, nothing will take from what pep did at city.

 

[Birdy]

Why annull those other titles. Just so United doesn't win them and have more titles than Liverpool.

No, I don't have any such biases

But you can't retrospectively award a title to a team that was 20pts behind in the table.
That is both unfair and illogical. If City were not in the race that year, it's far from certain UTD would have won it

Unlike cases like Liverpool 2019,2022 and Arsenal 2024, when the title was decided the last matchday

 

[jamrock]

The tweet exaggerates a lot IMO, and is disrespectful to Klopp
The trophies tally of Klopp era does not reflect what a jaggernaut this man created.
Look at only this stat to realize:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1783838551626641639

He was unlucky many many times

That said, it is true that Klopp had some problem with Madrid especially, either under Zidane or Ancelotti
He would always fall in their naive trap of sitting back and waiting to counter.
Of course, several games (like the 2022 final) required also huge tons of voodoo and Courtois heroics for that to happen

The wonderful power of, "IF".

 

[Birdy]

I mean, the same could be said about Chelsea under Mourinho, plus awful football. He had endless resources from a Russian Oligarch.

Pep made City a dominant force in a way EPL haven't seen before. His time will always ve seen fondly in years.

True, but back then it was immoral, THO legal, to money launder like this.
That's why FFP should have come into place
Since FFP, this is illegal and the Oil money STates are trying to play smartass games with the British justice...

Behind prison bar is their true place where they should be

 

[Skalman]

Their fall from form begins today