Luis Enrique

serghei

Senior Member
Lol okay then.

Lol what? How is Pep signing Coman different than Lucho signing Andre Gomes? How is Pep signing Stones, different than Lucho signing Umtiti? Seems to me that Lucho was interested in signing young players, just like Pep does.

You said Pep is interested in developing young players. No shit! And Lucho isn't? Then why the hell are we joking about a signing being impossible if the players is over 22 years old? Because Lucho doesn't care about developing players? Didn't Lucho loan Rafinha at Celta and gave him playing time and making him one of that season's revelations? There are so many things that contradict the notion that Lucho doesn't care about developing young players it's not even funny anymore.
 
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jamrock

Senior Member
If you cant see the difference between pep turning a player juve was willing to throw away, into a player most clubs in Europe will jump to sign and barca paying 35m to get gomes a player a few clubs were interested in,then there is nothing I can do.

Neymar is Neymar, everyone knew what Neymar was and was going to be, he would be that whether is was at barcelona or man utd.

The people who compared gotze to Neymar is the sameones who were saying hazard it better than him a few years ago.
 
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serghei

Senior Member
Coman costed Bayern 28 million euros. :lol: at "willing to throw away"...

"Neymar is Neymar, everyone knew what Neymar was and was going to be, he would be that whether is was at barcelona or man utd."

I agree. So great talents come through under pretty much every good manager. You don't have to be Pep Guardiola to do it.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Coman costed Bayern 28 million euros. :lol: at "willing to throw away"...

Yea that's after the loan, that's after pep developed his talent and proved he is worth the extra 21 million.

Juve happily let him go on loan because they thought he wasn't up to standard, I bet they regret that now, because he is worth way more than the 28 million Bayern paid.

Get your facts straight, a one year loan where they pain 7 million, and a option to buy him after that.

Every single player you listed with the expectation of bob, are players that have already proven themselves, which is why luis bought them, again he likes proven experience player's, nothing to do with development there. That has already been done by another manager.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Juve, Chelsea, Real, etc. were chasing after Gomes.

It doesn't matter. Signing Gomes means you are interested in developing youth, because Gomes is clearly a project for the future. That's the point I'm making. What difference does it make how many teams were after him?
 

KingMessi

SiempreBlaugrana
It doesn't matter. Signing Gomes means you are interested in developing youth, because Gomes is clearly a project for the future. That's the point I'm making. What difference does it make how many teams were after him?

The other dude said nobody really wanted Gomes.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
It doesn't matter. Signing Gomes means you are interested in developing youth, because Gomes is clearly a project for the future. That's the point I'm making. What difference does it make how many teams were after him?
The point is everyone saw the talent already, how many saw the talent in coman after he left juve, everyone thought he was a failure who didn't work out.

They had to come up with a fancy loan to get him off there books
 

serghei

Senior Member
Juve happily let him go on loan because they thought he wasn't up to standard, I bet they regret that now, because he is worth way more than the 28 million Bayern paid.

They'll be fine. Just turned 0 euros into 100 m while reaching a CL final and making doubles almost each year in Italy. Speaking of Pogba, from 0 euros and unknown to 100m. and world star. Should we say Conte and Allegri are better than Pep at developing players? :lol: No. Each talent is different. That's why Gotze didn't work for Pep. And speaking of young players. What about Chygrinsky?, Pep surely saw something in him. Turned out it was probably his hair he liked.

For every Coman there's a Goetze, Chygrsinky, even Alexis to a degree. If Pep is genius with developing players, then how come he thought the average Chygrinsky was any good? You win some, lose some, it's like that since the beginning of sports. You don't overblow a win to make it sound like something only Guardiola can do, and you don't turn a loss into the end of the world either.

Selling Eto'o plus a lot of cash for Ibrahimovic has to be one of the worst transfers in the history of Barcelona. Or close anyway. Yep, Pep did it. Yet to some, he is without fault (not you specifically). I assure you he isn't. Not by a long shot.
 
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jamrock

Senior Member
The other dude said nobody really wanted Gomes.

I said a few clubs in Europe wanted, because is talent is clear to them, he is already alone the bath to become a top player, real wanted him

It just proves my point, Luis like proven players, nothing to develop from scratch.
 

El Flaco

Active member
In case of Coman, I think the problem with him was that he didn't fit Allergi's system rather than being not good enough as a player.

Coman was a great fit for Pep's system at Bayern.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
They made turned 0 euros into 100 m while reaching a CL final and making doubles almost each year in Italy. Speaking of Pogba, from 0 euros and unknown to 100m. and world star. Should we say Conte and Allegri are better than Pep at developing players? :lol: No. Each talent is different. That's why Gotze didn't work for Pep. What about Chygrinsky, Pep surely saw something in him. Yep, it was his hair.

For every Comain there's Goetze, Chygrsinky, even Alexis to a degree. If Pep is genius with developing players, then how come he thought the average Chygrinsky was any good. You win some, lose some, it's like that since the beginning of sports.


Everyone and their mother wanted pogba when he left man u, again get your facts straight and what does that prove as it relates to coman, who pep help turn into one of the top young talents in Europe right now.

Unlike gomes, who is already that at the point Luis bought him.
 

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