Oh sorry, could you please get from that years how many head to head duels spanish clubs had in semi's and qf's? Thank you
Because the winner of a CL is the team who wins in a head to head duel between Spanish vs English sides?
Let's repeat one more time.
Italy was the strongest league from 1990-2003.
Spain was the strongest since 2005-until a few years ago.
In the last 2-3 years, England is the strongest due to several reasons:
1. Messi will be gone
2. CR7 is gone
3. ALL English teams have more money. In Spain, only Barca and Real have money, others are poor-ish. In England, everyone have money.
English clubs have had more money for 20 years, occasionally they will get it right but I don't see them dominating at all. And the new La Liga TV deal from 2019-22 has closed the gap significantly to the Premier League TV deal which is smaller than it was. There are only so many people Sky can sell subscriptions to, it has already started to level off and has even dropped a little.
Do you have numbers for Spanish league in terms of numbers drop?
On some topics, we could read that RM has 5000 less season tickets sold after CR7's departure.
Imagine Barca's season's tickets and TV pay per view after Messi when we'll have Dembele or who knows whom as a star player.
And it is not just money, look at Man Utd as the perfect example, they have spent almost as much as anyone and have nothing to show for it, the difference between them and Liverpool, Spurs and Man City is their managers, when they leave those three clubs will drop like a stone.
Look at Barca, for example, outside Messi.
Coutinho 165M
Dembele 145M
Malcom 40M
Paco 35, Gomes 40, Arda 40, Semedo 40
= 505 Millions. In this moment, NOT A SINGLE PLAYER out of these is a starter or ever was.
You make it sound as if we are making good deals, as English teams are stupid.
As if their numbers are dropping and our popularity will grow without Messi, CR7 (and especially when we will be average in a CL after Messi).
It is a vicious cycle.
Spain became better and better and richer and richer due to Messi, Cr7 and CL titles.
Remove those 3 and you are heading down, in a similar fashion.
Winners of CL last 10 years: Spain 7 v England 2
Winners of EL last 10 years: Spain 6 v England 3
Shows the dominance of both countries in last 10 years, with Spain way in front in terms of total wins.
When you add Italy from 90s, they have even better numbers...
What is the point comparing numbers from the last 10 years when:
1. Barca had Pep (gone), Messi (soon to be gone), Xavi (gone), Iniesta (gone), Busi (soon to be gone)
2. Real had CR7 (gone)
3. Sevilla was a force. They are meh today.
So, what do those years of Pep, Messi, Xavi, CR7 and Spanish teams winning CLs have today with:
1. Real (a joke) without CR7?
2. Barca with a soon to be 33 years old Messi and Suarez
If this season English teams will be a crap, then the last season was a fluke.
But what do you think it is more likely?
1) that Man City, Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man Utd will have good results in Europe?
2) or that Ernieball, Real with Fatzard and similar will rule the Europe?
Why are you guys offended?
EPL is richer and stronger in this moment.
Money usually wins, except in Man Utd's case.
On larger samples, richer teams will get on top.
Barca has an old, unmotivated team. We can't run too much.
Real has an old, unmotivated team with fat players. Mixed with horrible, overrated youngsters, who are 4-5 years away from being ready to actually play.
Liverpool can run and play.
City can run and play.
Tottenham can run and play.