Malcom

MTL_Barca

Well-known member
I have never said that every player who is not good enough for Barca will be a crap in all other teams.
But on the other hand, users here are repeating the same mistake OVER and OVER.

If Dembele sucks here and if we sell him, people will reply:
He will end as a new De Bruyne or Salah under a better coach.
If we sell Malcom, people will reply:
He will probably shine and end as a new De Bruyne or Salah under a better coach.
If we sell Alena, lol, people will reply:
He will probably revive his career and play better under a better coach.

So, we have 2-3 examples like Salah who weren't recognized by their clubs.
And then around 90% of players who sucked in their clubs and sucked in every other club later in their career, for a reason.
Yet, people are mentioning Salah and De Bruyne in every example, like currently with Malcom or Alena.

So, not every player will end as Salah. In fact, 1 out of 20, or 1 out of 50 will end that way.
It is way more likely that a player will end as Halilovic, Bojan, Denis.
Or, the most likely: a player will end as a midtable team player eventually.

About Malcom at Bordeaux:
1. he played at a midtable team
2. and he was a key player of that team
When a team is built around a player, he can often perform way better because a team is playing on his strengths.
Remember, when Halilovic was at Dinamo Zagreb, a club was built that way so that Halilovic could look awesome and so that you could see only his good strengths.
When he came to bigger clubs, those clubs weren't interested in building their tactics around Halil. So, he was exposed.
Not to mention that the opponents in bigger clubs were way better.

Or remember Alexis Sanchez.
When he played in BOTH:
1. a smaller club (like Udinese)
2. and when a team was built around him
= he looked awesome.
He was a key player, he was allowed to do whatever he wants. And there was no pressure in terms of results. Plus, the opponents sucked.
Not to mention that he was full of confidence because:
1. he was always a secured starter
2. he was a key player
3. a coach and all teammates had faith in him and they were passing every ball to him (just like Malcom at Bordeaux)

Or, when he played for Chile: the same=he was a key player.
But then, when you put Alexis in Barca's team where he will never be a key man and where he is the 5th most important player=he is lost. He is not a key man. He is not allowed to do whatever he wants. A team is not playing on his strengths. The opponents are better. A huge pressure is on his shoulders, fans need good displays and titles right away.
He is not a starter, he is losing confidence.
A different league, a different style of play.

So, this is why I don't rate Malcom's season at Bordeaux or Dembele's season at Dortmund as much as you do.
Those circumstances are a totally different universe and they don't have too much similarities with Barca: with our pressure, with our team, with our pecking order, with our possession play etc.

My point was that bringing up Halilovic and claiming he can't even play for Arsenal is just as pointless as comparing him to Salah. I don't think it's relevant for Malcom that Denis sucked for Arsenal too, that just shows how bad Denis is.

Instead of just naming the most likely solution and leave it at that you instead started your typical rambling. I also don't think many people will seriously believe Malcom will go the Salah way as that is just so rare but it seems you always need a ridiculous "the peoples" opinion to argue against instead of picking the individual users.

Also idk what you think how i rated Malcoms performances in France but i don't think they were that outstanding, i mean he was on the way to Roma for 35M so that already says a lot. But then again just being good and sort of the main man for a decent team there is already more than what Denis showed, not even speaking about Halilovic. So again i think guys like Paco would be a way better comparison than players that failed completely.

And for Dembele, yeah whatever. Discussing that with you doesn't make sense so let's just agree to disagree on that :lol:
 
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Raketa10

Senior Member
He will be sold and IMHO that's a good decision. With Griezmann here he wouldn't get much playing time. If we can get 40-45 mill just sell, he is a one dimensional player who can play only on the right side because his right leg is absolutely useless. We don't need him simple as that and should be offloaded for that amount.
 
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Adversus

New member
Heard it's between us (Everton) and Zenit. I really hope we get him because our forward line of Kean, Richarlison, Sigurdsson and hopefully Malcom could do a lot of damage next year.
 

jairzinho

Senior Member
I’m not suggesting that Malcom will turn into another Salah. I used examples of Salah / De Bruyne to show how difficult it is for clubs to really determine how a player would develop. Otherwise those players would probably have never left Chelsea in the first place.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Look, 6 Months ago, people would probably reply the same about Denis

I don't know why you're replying to me and using Denis' name. I was never a Denis fan here. Montoya, Denis, Bartra, Samper etc., I never rated these players to begin with, let alone consider them potential starters.

Malcom is a player who we paid 40m on. Would move anytime at Arsenal and would be one of their best attackers. Tottenham is a stretch, you're right, he's not playing in front of Alli, Son or Moura.

Malcom is better than Denis ever was.
 
I don't know why you're replying to me and using Denis' name. I was never a Denis fan here. Montoya, Denis, Bartra, Samper etc., I never rated these players to begin with, let alone consider them potential starters.

Malcom is a player who we paid 40m on. Would move anytime at Arsenal and would be one of their best attackers. Tottenham is a stretch, you're right, he's not playing in front of Alli, Son or Moura.

Malcom is better than Denis ever was.

Malcom is a better player with higher potential than both Moura and Alli.
 

cro-man

Active member
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The agreement between Malcom and Zenit is total. The Brazilian winger had offers from China but he prioritizes Zenit. There was a meeting in Barcelona today. [cope]</p>— barcacentre (@barcacentre) <a href="https://twitter.com/barcacentre/status/1156229931040481281?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">30. Juli 2019</a></blockquote>
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Respekt_III

Anti-everything
This genuinely doesn't make sense to me if true.
Advantages:
*hot girls
*vokda?
*nice city (st Petersburg)

Disadvantages:
*cold
*Russian police?
*cold
*football suicide
*cold
*inferior league
*cold
*limited exposure
*cold
and so on.
 

michelco

New member
add russian racism on top of that. he'll stay 2 season tops before going on strike in ordet to get sold to Frankfurt or some shit like that
 

cro-man

Active member
I guess he didnt have many offers or maybe only this one except some from china. We do demand a certain amount of money and they are willing to pay it and we are more then eager to sell him as it seems but only if the price is met. I guess its the only way out for him but he will earn a lot as it seems and they will play cl?
 

Tekkers

New member
tough luck, would've been a great squad player. wish rakitic could humble himself and just fuck off already but i guess he just doesn't have the character
 

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