Premier League 2014/15

[DonAK]

No i was on about the whole gerrard thing haha! The cringeworthy coverage started just as i posted it.

Heard some English journo call Sky Sports for visionary and the latest in new tech for their player cam.

Yeah because we've never seen a player cam before.

 

[Dinho]

The match itself, from Liverpool's point of view, was very sad. I mean, officially ruled out of the CL with this(not that they had a chance) and Gerrard's very poor performance epitomising Liverpool as a whole this season. A really bad match for a farewell.

Not if you're a United fan. One of the most enjoyable moments of the entire season.

Liverpool are in ruin. Sterling is acting up over his contract. He'll leave sooner or later. Sturridge can't stay fit and never will because of his genetics. And now they've lost Gerrard's experience and dressing room influence, despite being poor in general play for quite awhile.

No Champions League football and a big expectation on some of the underperforming signings next season. Lallana, Lovren, Markovic and Moreno will need to vastly improve.

 

[BenRobbins]

Heard some English journo call Sky Sports for visionary and the latest in new tech for their player cam.

Yeah because we've never seen a player cam before.

Yeah it really does irritate me reading and listening to some journo's/pundits we have in England. They get paid an absolute fortune and most members on this forum have a greater knowledge on the game and its players when this is just a hobby for us but a living for them.

I am not sure why they scrapped player cam in the first place? Probably due to not alot of people using it.

 

[JamDav1982]

EPL pundits in England point to Barcelona/Real tanking teams by 4/5 goals as evidence of how bad La Liga.

Yet Southampton were 5-1 up at HT time today and all they would talk about is 'this is what makes EPL best league in world..all these goals'

Ridiculous the way they bend rules to make EPL the best.

Another example being the CL, a few years ago EPL was best as had most teams going deep in CL...now they dont it is because EPL is so hard week in week out.

 

[Dinho]

EPL pundits in England point to Barcelona/Real tanking teams by 4/5 goals as evidence of how bad La Liga.

Yet Southampton were 5-1 up at HT time today and all they would talk about is 'this is what makes EPL best league in world..all these goals'

Ridiculous the way they bend rules to make EPL the best.

Another example being the CL, a few years ago EPL was best as had most teams going deep in CL...now they dont it is because EPL is so hard week in week out.

The Premier League is by far the toughest league to win in Europe.

It might not be the best spectacle on a game to game, head to head basis, but every team can beat each other on any given day. There are regular upsets. La Liga has been lacking in quality at the top until this season with the emergence of a rejuvenated Valencia and Sevilla who have built good squads and play good football. But the gap is too big between Real Madrid and Barcelona compared to the rest. The other clubs can't compete over the course of a season. Atlético could have built on their title success had they had the financial capabilities to keep their three best players.

Leicester City, for example, were stastically the worst team in England for the first 28 games of the season, but are now the most in form team in the entire division with 6 wins and two draws from their last 10 games. 5 clean sheets from their last 8 games. Even when they were playing badly, they came back to beat United 5-3.

This is what makes The Premier League so good to watch. The unpredictability factor.

You're rarely going to see Córdoba do something similar.

 

[Cule4life]

EPL pundits in England point to Barcelona/Real tanking teams by 4/5 goals as evidence of how bad La Liga.



Yet Southampton were 5-1 up at HT time today and all they would talk about is 'this is what makes EPL best league in world..all these goals'



Ridiculous the way they bend rules to make EPL the best.



Another example being the CL, a few years ago EPL was best as had most teams going deep in CL...now they dont it is because EPL is so hard week in week out.

The Premier League is by far the toughest league to win in Europe.



It might not be the best spectacle on a game to game, head to head basis, but every team can beat each other on any given day. There are regular upsets. La Liga has been lacking in quality at the top until this season with the emergence of a rejuvenated Valencia and Sevilla who have built good squads and play good football. But the gap is too big between Real Madrid and Barcelona compared to the rest. The other clubs can't compete over the course of a season. Atlético could have built on their title success had they had the financial capabilities to keep their three best players.



Leicester City, for example, were stastically the worst team in England for the first 28 games of the season, but are now the most in form team in the entire division with 6 wins and two draws from their last 10 games. 5 clean sheets from their last 8 games. Even when they were playing badly, they came back to beat United 5-3.



This is what makes The Premier League so good to watch. The unpredictability factor.



You're rarely going to see Córdoba do something similar.

And Messi will wet his shorts on a cold rainy evening at the Britannia stadium....

 

[JamDav1982]

The Premier League is by far the toughest league to win in Europe.



It might not be the best spectacle on a game to game, head to head basis, but every team can beat each other on any given day. There are regular upsets. La Liga has been lacking in quality at the top until this season with the emergence of a rejuvenated Valencia and Sevilla who have built good squads and play good football. But the gap is too big between Real Madrid and Barcelona compared to the rest. The other clubs can't compete over the course of a season. Atlético could have built on their title success had they had the financial capabilities to keep their three best players.



Leicester City, for example, were stastically the worst team in England for the first 28 games of the season, but are now the most in form team in the entire division with 6 wins and two draws from their last 10 games. 5 clean sheets from their last 8 games. Even when they were playing badly, they came back to beat United 5-3.



This is what makes The Premier League so good to watch. The unpredictability factor.



You're rarely going to see Córdoba do something similar.

And Messi will wet his shorts on a cold rainy evening at the Britannia stadium....[/QUOTE]

Nope the closest league doesnt make it toughest to win.

Otherwise the English Championship was 'tougher' to win this year than the EPL.

Finishing above Barca or Real Madrid is a tougher ask than anything an EPL team has to do to win that league.

 

[Catalan Fan]

Not if you're a United fan. One of the most enjoyable moments of the entire season.

Liverpool are in ruin. Sterling is acting up over his contract. He'll leave sooner or later. Sturridge can't stay fit and never will because of his genetics. And now they've lost Gerrard's experience and dressing room influence, despite being poor in general play for quite awhile.

No Champions League football and a big expectation on some of the underperforming signings next season. Lallana, Lovren, Markovic and Moreno will need to vastly improve.

I don't understand the Sturridge can't stay fit because of his genetics bit ?

EDIT; whilst the Prem does often flip form on it's head, and makes MOTD fun to watch, the fact is that only a couple of teams were actually strong enough to win it this season.Chelsea n City.

 

[Flavia]

The Premier League is by far the toughest league to win in Europe.

It might not be the best spectacle on a game to game, head to head basis, but every team can beat each other on any given day. There are regular upsets. La Liga has been lacking in quality at the top until this season with the emergence of a rejuvenated Valencia and Sevilla who have built good squads and play good football. But the gap is too big between Real Madrid and Barcelona compared to the rest. The other clubs can't compete over the course of a season. Atlético could have built on their title success had they had the financial capabilities to keep their three best players.

Leicester City, for example, were stastically the worst team in England for the first 28 games of the season, but are now the most in form team in the entire division with 6 wins and two draws from their last 10 games. 5 clean sheets from their last 8 games. Even when they were playing badly, they came back to beat United 5-3.

This is what makes The Premier League so good to watch. The unpredictability factor.

You're rarely going to see Córdoba do something similar.

That's clear epl bias. Chelsea have 11 more points than the 2nd place, and 14 more than the 3rd. Barça lost at home to celta and malaga, hardly what you call top sides. In any league, any team can beat the other any given day.
From day one everyone knew the epl winner would be either chelsea or city. THAT unpredictability...

 

[StarLord]

The Premier League is by far the toughest league to win in Europe.

It might not be the best spectacle on a game to game, head to head basis, but every team can beat each other on any given day. There are regular upsets. La Liga has been lacking in quality at the top until this season with the emergence of a rejuvenated Valencia and Sevilla who have built good squads and play good football. But the gap is too big between Real Madrid and Barcelona compared to the rest. The other clubs can't compete over the course of a season. Atlético could have built on their title success had they had the financial capabilities to keep their three best players.

Leicester City, for example, were stastically the worst team in England for the first 28 games of the season, but are now the most in form team in the entire division with 6 wins and two draws from their last 10 games. 5 clean sheets from their last 8 games. Even when they were playing badly, they came back to beat United 5-3.

This is what makes The Premier League so good to watch. The unpredictability factor.

You're rarely going to see Córdoba do something similar.

This season, the EPL has been quite predictable and stale. Chelsea being in control since Day 1. Only City mounted a half-arsed challenge. The Top 4 fight was also a formality. Far more crucially and tellingly, the EPL clubs continued a now more than considerable run of extremely disappointing European results. In the period between 2007 and 2009, there were 4 English clubs in the CL final 8, and 3 in the final 4. Since then, we have had two seasons with precisely zero English clubs in the last 8. We have had top English teams (City, United, Chelsea) failing to make it past the group stage. This year it was Liverpool who lost out to Basel and almost to Ludogorets as well. The super-duper champions of Chelsea, managed by the super-duper genius Jose, and led by the super-duper Hazard, were eliminated (and outplayed) by a ten-man PSG. The same PSG we casually dispatched in the next round. City were infinitely lucky to escape with only elimination and two narrow defeats against us. The second leg could have easily been a 7-0. Arsenal somehow managed to lose to Monaco.

In the Europa League, English teams have long been relative disappointments. The standard excuse we have been getting for many years now, is that English teams are just too good and too rich to really care about the EL. This season was supposed to be their break-out year since the great incentive of CL football was dangled before them. The results? Exactly the same as before. Hull City was eliminated by Lokeren in the qualifying round, Spurs got soundly beaten by Fiorentina (from a league that any EPL fan would call massively inferior) in the round of 32, Liverpool were eliminated by Besiktas at the same stage, and only Everton made it to the last 16 where they got hammered by Dynamo Kiev. And who is going to probably win this new version of the EL with the CL prize at its end? Oh, the team that has been winning it the most for the past decade, Sevilla.

Now don't get me wrong, I am not saying that the EPL is not a high-quality league (it must be with all its billions) What I am saying is that you people should stop making excuses and conjuring myths all the time so that you can hype the football that you are familiar with. I thought that persistent under-performance in Europe would instill more modesty and sophistication to EPL fans, but to many of you it seems not be working. You keep adjusting facts and reality to suit your favored narrative.

77 in 118

The last two seasons, it's a goal every 90mns.

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sergio-aguero/leistungsdaten/spieler/26399

 

[antonnn]

Lol, EPL bias. Both sets of fans have bias for their league, it's a pointless argument. We've been there 1000 times, should just drop it tbh, because it never gets anywhere and people end up getting salty. There's pros and cons of each, but half the time there ends up being silly condescending comments which usually ends up with somebody getting annoying or pissed off. Admittedly from my experience Liga fans are way more condescending, to the point that sometimes I want to get in on the argument but I just don't bother.

 

[StarLord]

Lol, EPL bias. Both sets of fans have bias for their league, it's a pointless argument. We've been there 1000 times, should just drop it tbh, because it never gets anywhere and people end up getting salty. There's pros and cons of each, but half the time there ends up being silly condescending comments which usually ends up with somebody getting annoying or pissed off. Admittedly from my experience Liga fans are way more condescending, to the point that sometimes I want to get in on the argument but I just don't bother.

Yes, but I only partly agree.

There are not only opinions in this world, there are also facts and we should acknowledge them.

 

[Flavia]

Lol, EPL bias. Both sets of fans have bias for their league, it's a pointless argument. We've been there 1000 times, should just drop it tbh, because it never gets anywhere and people end up getting salty. There's pros and cons of each, but half the time there ends up being silly condescending comments which usually ends up with somebody getting annoying or pissed off. Admittedly from my experience Liga fans are way more condescending, to the point that sometimes I want to get in on the argument but I just don't bother.

The bias is mostly this myth of the epl being more competitive. La Liga might be a 2 horse race recently, but so is the epl. I don't see that much difference, all things considered.

 

[S7_MUFC]

Lol, EPL bias. Both sets of fans have bias for their league, it's a pointless argument. We've been there 1000 times, should just drop it tbh, because it never gets anywhere and people end up getting salty. There's pros and cons of each, but half the time there ends up being silly condescending comments which usually ends up with somebody getting annoying or pissed off. Admittedly from my experience Liga fans are way more condescending, to the point that sometimes I want to get in on the argument but I just don't bother.

Exactly, La Liga fans act like we are idiots for following a league that is so "inferior". The whole Chelsea won the league by so many points also doesn't make sense because this is their first league title in 5 years...Can you imagine a team that hasn't won La Liga in 5 years winning the league at a canter?

 

[footyfan]

The bias is mostly this myth of the epl being more competitive. La Liga might be a 2 horse race recently, but so is the epl. I don't see that much difference, all things considered.

It's more competitive than La Liga for sure. I made a long-ass post on the Serie A thread here:

http://www.barcaforum.com/showthread.php/12146-Serie-A-2014-2015?p=1447739&viewfull=1#post1447739

And some charts here:

http://www.barcaforum.com/showthread.php/12146-Serie-A-2014-2015?p=1447771&viewfull=1#post1447771


This season has been the first time La Liga and EPL have been about equally competitive, because Valencia and Sevilla had such great seasons.