Premier League 2017/18

[JamDav1982]

Because City had some of the same EPL type players, staring with Joe Hart (replaced with Bravo, but a Bravo that was a shadow of himself, comitting errors after errors), an EPL type keeper who'd just boot up the field every ball for a teammate to win a header and play from there.

GK is part of it.... one of most technical keepers in world failed.

As big as anything was the full backs not having the pace and power to utilise his approach fully and Pep tweaking team and realising need to match up a bit with power etc.

The biggest failures last season for Pep were actually players brought from La Liga who couldnt cope - Bravo and Nolito were shocking.

Joe Hart never played really so no idea why brought him up.

 

[serghei]

No they dont.

The depth of technical players in bottom half of EPL is far better.

City could not tear anything apart last season with largely same tactics..

Totally disagree.

Betis is what you call a Huddersfield/Palace type of team in La Liga. At 0-0 on Bernabeu in min 88. they structured in 5 minutes 3 or 4 attacks through passing almost from keeper until a neatly created chance. Sanabria scored a goal like that.

A smaller EPL team doesn't have the technique and the ability to create something like that. Because their defender and midfielders, which are British, would boot the ball so far in row Z you wouldn't believe, or just play long balls over to a Benteke type striker.

The technique in La Liga is overall superior to that in EPL. That is noticeable both at the top (obviously), but also at the bottom. The likes of Betis and Getafe are more capable than their EPL counterparts to construct effective chances with their passing.

Not that I'm not saying they're superior team, but they're certainly superior at technique and passing. And so it happens that those are the main tools to get around a pressing as the one used by City. The standard stuff used by average PL teams is toothless against City.

 

[JamDav1982]

Totally disagree.

Betis is what you call a Huddersfield/Palace type of team in La Liga. At 0-0 on Bernabeu in min 88. they structured in 5 minutes 3 or 4 attacks through passing almost from keeper until a neatly created chance. Sanabria scored a goal like that.

A smaller EPL team doesn't have the technique and the ability to create something like that. Because their defender and midfielders, which are British, would boot the ball so far in row Z you wouldn't believe, or just play long balls over to a Benteke type striker.

The technique in La Liga is overall superior to that in EPL. That is noticeable both at the top (obviously), but also at the bottom. The likes of Betis and Getafe are more capable than their EPL counterparts to construct effective chances with their passing.

Real completely over committed in that game and teams all they way down the EPL have the pace and power to counter attack and kill sides for that.

Spurs did it time and again to Real but couldnt to City.

Go list the top 20/30 'technical' players in bottom half of each league and it wouldnt even be close.

Betis and Getafe do not have better technical players than those in EPL.

 

[Cule For Life]

PL is hardly weak you have Pep, Mou, Conte, Wenger, Poch and Klopp there. You can add Rafa if you want a La Liga winner and CL winner. They have some high profile managers many of who are coaching big clubs aside from Rafa.

City if they keep at this rate may possibly have the most dominate season in the PL/English football history as they may beat the points + goals, as well as may possibly go undefeated.

 

[xXKonan]

Starting to think Mou hasn't really coped with how football has evolved in the last couple of seasons. What worked before for him isn't working as well for him anymore. It's probably just me though.

 

[Mitchell1978]

Plenty of blowouts in the PL these season, a lot more then in La Liga or most of the top 5 leagues.

 

[Givenchy]

the fucking bellend has come out and said £300m spend is not enough United really have bought some shit recently though, bar Pogba and Martial its mostly average players

 

[Devils]

Their squad is good enough and are mostly underperforming due to Mourinho boring and outdated defensive hoofball/crossing football.

Mourinho's football has always been dire, but in the past he's gotten his players to fight tooth and nail for him, nowadays it doesn't look like he can be bothered, nor his players.

Really pathetic to watch.

 

[stb_1]

Premier League is stronger than La Liga for first time since 2008/2009.

But it SHOULD be.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Premier League is stronger than La Liga for first time since 2008/2009.

But it SHOULD be.

I don't know man. When I look at games like Liverpool vs Arsenal. They are awful. Sure they know how to score, but seriously Espanyol vs Atletico was much more quality football than that 3-3 game(team work is so much better in Spain). Some of these top English teams have no idea how to defend and play as a team.

They have some talent, but there's reason why ManC is dominating. There's no Atletico, Barca or Real to challenge them. ManC is above the rest. The rest ain't that good, at least not yet.

 

[serghei]

Their squad is good enough and are mostly underperforming due to Mourinho boring and outdated defensive hoofball/crossing football.

Mourinho's football has always been dire, but in the past he's gotten his players to fight tooth and nail for him, nowadays it doesn't look like he can be bothered, nor his players.

Really pathetic to watch.

True.

 

[Mitchell1978]

Perhaps Mourinho's style of football is becoming more and more outdated.

Heard PSG is still intrested in him though.

 

[Cule For Life]

the fucking bellend has come out and said £300m spend is not enough United really have bought some shit recently though, bar Pogba and Martial its mostly average players

Their squad is good enough and are mostly underperforming due to Mourinho boring and outdated defensive hoofball/crossing football.

Mourinho's football has always been dire, but in the past he's gotten his players to fight tooth and nail for him, nowadays it doesn't look like he can be bothered, nor his players.

Really pathetic to watch.

United GK: De Gea
City GK: Ederson

De Gea is the better keeper, Ederson has been remarkable for City, but De Gea has been doing it for more years.

City CB: Stones, Otamendi, Mangala, injured Kompany and Tosin
United CB: Bailley, Rojo, Jones, Smalling and Lindelöf

Again not much separating the two here, Pep possession base football helps his back line a lot since they don't get many chances created against them.

City FB: Walker, Danilo and Delph
United FB: Young, Valencia, Darmin, Shaw and Blind

Again not much separating them. Walker is probably the better FB and gives City the edge there.

City Midfield: KdB, Dinho and Silva
United Midfield: Pogba, Matic and Herrara/Mata/Mkhi (whoever he chooses)

KdB and Pogba are pretty equal in terms of talent, they have different strengths, Matic and Dinho aren't that far apart and Silva is better then anything United have.

City Wingers: Sterling and Sane
United Wingers: Rashford and Martial

Form aside they all have huge talent and potential, nothing separating them from here either.

City Strikers: Aguero/Jesus
United Striker: Lukaku/Ibra

City get the edge here, but not by much

City Bench: B. Silva, injury prone Gundo, Danilo, Bravo, Yaya, Jesus/Aguero (one of them), Mangala, Foden and Zinchenko
United Bench: Shaw, Darmian, Lingard, Ibra, Smalling/Lindelöf, Mata/Mkhi/Herrara, Romero and Rojo

So not much at all the difference is the coaching and finding a style that gets the best out of the talent, as well as covering their weakness. Which Pep excels in compared to Mou.

 

[Vilarrubi]

Unreal ball by De Bruyne!

 

[El Flaco]

Only 2 wins left for Man City to equal Bayern's record for taking most wins in a row.