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10Messi10

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Nope you are wrong.. that's why you say Barca won the six trophies and count the liga + copa & the Cl of last year

the super cups are a direct result of the league/CL win same for the CWC.. just because it's played in December doesn't make it a trophy for the the current season

so your actual trophies this season are so far zero but that doesn't take away the magnificent achievement of 5 trophies last year

there is a reason why it's called 2011/2012 season, not just 2011 or 2012 season...
 
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xaviniesta

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Nope you are wrong.. that's why you say Barca won the six trophies and count the liga + copa & the Cl of last year

the super cups are a direct result of the league/CL win same for the CWC.. just because it's played in December doesn't make it a trophy for the the current season

so your actual trophies this season are so far zero but that doesn't take away the magnificent achievement of 5 trophies last year

using your logic the WC spain won wasn't in 2010 but it was in 2009 when they played the qualifications.



as for trying to trash this season that barca didn't won any major trophies doesn't mean anything to me. i will always remember this season for the footballing reasons.
 

oz187

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300 Million spent to build a team for years not just one season or two.. we are in the semi-finals twice in a row .. lastly went out for PK

I haven't watched too many Madrid matches(but catch a lot of highlights on Revista) but it seems to me Madrid did lose a lot of steam towards the end of this season. Also there seems to be more potential instability in the squad. Xabi Alonso is a crucial player but is aging, do you see him maintaining his level next season? Kaka is still on the edge of things is he going to stay? Then there's Ozil and Higuain. Both have done a good job, but there's always question marks over whether they would stay(politics has a lot to do with it in Higuain's case since he is from the last regime). I heard Lass might be leaving too. Do you think this Madrid squad has peaked? Do you see this coming season as one where there will be some transtition?
 

Banana-Rama

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ha take that la liga fanboys, apparently la liga is soooooooo superior yet there is no spanish team in the final...........

on another note, very dissapointed with madrid's performance last night, far too directed and hurried with there play, every time they had the ball they tried to force the play too much and wasted possesion. they needed to play keep ball for a while and take some control over the game, they were never in control of the game in either leg. they were far too reliant on counter attack last night, they sat deep and let bayern have too much of the ball, there was no real reason for them to play that way as they have the superior personel.

in general i thought it was a poor game, all of madrid's attacking players underperformed and looked totally ineffectual, surprised at people saying what a great game it was, i was very bored watching it, the two teams totally cancelled it each other out, i can understand how supporters of either club would of been gripped by it but for a neutral fan it was a very boring game, and the penalty shoot out was shocking, terrible penalty taking :).............

i don't understand how khedira plays in that team, he looks out of his depth to be honest, his ball control and passing is really not good enough, i don't understand why sahin doesn't play instead of him, much better player. ozil has recieved alot of hype but i have not been that impressed by his performances at madrid, perhaps the high speed counter attack game doesn't best suit him, he doesn't control the game like you would expect of a playmaker like him, also for a player that plays behind the striker he doesn't score enough goals, he only has 4 goals overall this season which is poor, kaka looked far more threatening when he came on.
 

Yugo Count Dante

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It was an entertaining game... my fam always had an admiration for Bayern due to the history of its Yugoslav players, and still they have Olic and Prajnic. So for me it was an celebration after the game honestly. I still remember how they trashed united back then, pure class.

Regardless, RM did not deserve to go trough based on what they showed in the two legs...
 

Maria

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ha take that la liga fanboys, apparently la liga is soooooooo superior yet there is no spanish team in the final...........

:facepalm:

They were thinking at the league, just like MU did against Athletic..

As far as I can remember no one on this forum said that LL is soooooooooo superior to the oter leagues..most of us even complained of the lack of competitivity in Spain..what we did was laugh at the EPL, but that's another thing. In my opinion, the EPL and LL have been crap this year and Barca&RM being in the CL wouldn't have changed that..I've enjoyed more the Bundesliga and Serie A and that's because a league is not define just by how well it's teams do in Europe. But I wouldn't have expect someone who said that Llorente is the spanish version of Andy Caroll understand that.
 

Beast

The Observer
using your logic the WC spain won wasn't in 2010 but it was in 2009 when they played the qualifications.



as for trying to trash this season that barca didn't won any major trophies doesn't mean anything to me. i will always remember this season for the footballing reasons.

There is no reason to trash your season , it's already trashed.. you are trying to save face..
You can name what you want but at the end your overhaul for this season remain till now a final place in the copa

as someone said it's called season 2011/2012 for a reason also last season is called 2010/2011 for a reason.. the super cups and the CWC were played in 2011 as Messi10 mentioned
the teams who play in the 3 trophies are purely based on the fact that you win something last season so you play in the super cups or the CWC which is based on continent champions of last season ..

And my oh my Qualifiers is not the World cup (which is the competition ) it's like the liga which qualify you for the CL the following year .. Jesus are you a 10 year old ?
 

Beast

The Observer
I haven't watched too many Madrid matches(but catch a lot of highlights on Revista) but it seems to me Madrid did lose a lot of steam towards the end of this season. Also there seems to be more potential instability in the squad. Xabi Alonso is a crucial player but is aging, do you see him maintaining his level next season? Kaka is still on the edge of things is he going to stay? Then there's Ozil and Higuain. Both have done a good job, but there's always question marks over whether they would stay(politics has a lot to do with it in Higuain's case since he is from the last regime). I heard Lass might be leaving too. Do you think this Madrid squad has peaked? Do you see this coming season as one where there will be some transtition?

That's why you will see Sahin and Granero both young and can do the job.. our purchases lately has been all about the future not the present
a fit Sahin with a proper pre-season will be just like a new player we bought
I think the Squad needs some tinkering nothing more , Higuain isn't the same as pre-injury but there is no need to suggest he will leave for politics considering Perez is into his 4th year next season and Higuain is there .. unless we get a really great offer and we have an alternative
Ozil replaced Kaka role but i feel we can do with another playmaker if we sell Kaka and Ozil is Perez buy not old regime

A lot depend on the summer what they want to do and what offers we receive and who will replace Jose who i still believe will go unless the recent events of beating Barca make him stay.. my information dates back to the Copa games that he will leave end of this season (his request ) .. time will tell
 

ricknattery

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Nope you are wrong.. that's why you say Barca won the six trophies and count the liga + copa & the Cl of last year

the super cups are a direct result of the league/CL win same for the CWC.. just because it's played in December doesn't make it a trophy for the the current season

so your actual trophies this season are so far zero but that doesn't take away the magnificent achievement of 5 trophies last year

No, nobody said we won 6 titles in one season. We did it in one YEAR. We have already won 3 titles, since the 10-11 season ended in May, then you have pre-season 11-12 and then we won the cups, during the season 11-12.
And check any madrid forum, many of them(close to half of madrid fans) are not happy with their current situation, yes you achieve some stuff now, but the WAY you are doing it just doesn't make them happy because you are facing top teams like you were a segunda team. During the last couple of years in CL the first top team you face and you are out. Some madridistas don't get fooled by defeating apoel, ajax or lyon(being shit ieven at their own league, when they were dominating it at least they were kinda good and you lost to them). In Liga there is clear evidence refs played a great part (mallorca, betis, rayo and some others) and you won Barca in just one game but how? parking the bus, a feature getafe or hercules had achieved. Nothing to praise really with the amount you have spent on your squad.
So there is a group of madridistas which values the results(you apparently being among them) and other group who values the way you achieve things(you do not have a definded style and most of your goals come from counter attacking). Plus you have to add the fact that Mourinho has burned many players during this season and won't be able to reproduce the same form next year unless he changes tactis(something he has never done-against top teams). And also important, the fact that he has made your club look like a circus with all the offenses, attacks and behaving like animals whenever they lose a game(villareal or clasicos in Supercopa)
 

Beast

The Observer
The fans that were in the stadium and applauded the team last night begs to differ.. so your internet forum world makes no difference same as your opinion which you are trying to market in different topics

Our fans are very outspoken.. if they got pissed off the world will see them as it happened so many times before
 

Ryan_Cule

barça amor d mi alma
How did you actually feel after the ramos penalty beast ? :lol:



And is it 10th anniversary of Real Madrid for not being able to reach CL finals ???
 
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