Real Madrid (old thread)

[Gnegneri]

He cannot defend when he plays as a LB. I think that is established by now.

Ramos on the other hand is doing well.

 

[Fourteen]

"He cannot defend" is obviously inaccurate, and i'm sure you don't mean that he can't defend full-stop. He's Brazilian and Brazillian full-backs are known for their attacking qualities.

 

[Esteve]

I don't rate him at all. He shouldn't be played at LB as he's usually caught out or beaten too easily. Away to Sevilla is probably the biggest example this season. Dani is often caught out of position, but he's still better than Marcelo defensively as he's not skinned alive by any half decent winger.

 

[Raed]

So what if he cannot defend as a full back? How does that make us not rate him? He is a left winger who scores and assists regularly or at least is involved in a lot of our plays, he gets stuck in and he disturbs a lot of the opponents flow. Surely he lacks a lot but for someone his age and inexperience he is one of the brightest upcoming talents and I am proud to have him on.

Just look at how we cleared our bench from Brazilians yet he remained calm and in fact did not care except to prove himself and integrate. He is such a good vibe to have on the field and the players around him feed off his energy.

 

[FCB_Titi_LB]

So what if he cannot defend as a full back? How does that make us not rate him? He is a left winger who scores and assists regularly or at least is involved in a lot of our plays, he gets stuck in and he disturbs a lot of the opponents flow. Surely he lacks a lot but for someone his age and inexperience he is one of the brightest upcoming talents and I am proud to have him on.

Just look at how we cleared our bench from Brazilians yet he remained calm and in fact did not care except to prove himself and integrate. He is such a good vibe to have on the field and the players around him feed off his energy.

only against weak teams but if u r happy i m happy

 

[Gnegneri]

So what if he cannot defend as a full back? How does that make us not rate him? He is a left winger who scores and assists regularly or at least is involved in a lot of our plays, he gets stuck in and he disturbs a lot of the opponents flow. Surely he lacks a lot but for someone his age and inexperience he is one of the brightest upcoming talents and I am proud to have him on.

Just look at how we cleared our bench from Brazilians yet he remained calm and in fact did not care except to prove himself and integrate. He is such a good vibe to have on the field and the players around him feed off his energy.

So what? You played him there for several games, he is #1 replacement if Arbeloa is injured. Opponents do not only have enough time to drink a coffee, they can even plant their owns coffee plants on that part of the Bernabeu pitch cause Marcelo won't be there to trample them down anyway.

I do think he is doing well at the left winger position, as I said in previous posts. But I don't rate him, just a Brazilian kid (litterally) with some fancy gameplay.

 

[Raed]

No, half way through last season Marcelo was being moved to play as a left winger, in fact he has played there in his first season too. If he is our first choice after Arbeloa then that is the management's problem for not covering that spot well and just thinking about it, Drenthe took that position ahead of Marcelo.

I do not think he is just another Brazilian kid with some fancy game play because first of all, he strikes me as an industrial player first and he has the ability to beat 2 or three players on the dribble, showcased some beautiful passes (although not regularly) and happens to provide options almost every time for player makers. He is not a dumb player like Benzima, in fact he is smart, someone who endures a lot of pressure (unlike Brazilian kids) and has shown enormous amount of stamina. He is very good at shooting in both feet, very determined, and was never guilty of slacking off (unlike Brazilian kids). Maybe he is off form sometimes, but he is the first player to combine defensive and offensive duties for Madrid in a long, long time.

We face either Bayern, Inter, CSKA (minus two players), Porto, Lyon, Stuttugart or Olympiacos...If we manage not to face the first two there is no reason as to why we cannot advance.

 

[FCB_Titi_LB]

still active in 3 competitions, visca el barca

 

[Gnegneri]

No, half way through last season Marcelo was being moved to play as a left winger, in fact he has played there in his first season too. If he is our first choice after Arbeloa then that is the management's problem for not covering that spot well and just thinking about it, Drenthe took that position ahead of Marcelo.

I do not think he is just another Brazilian kid with some fancy game play because first of all, he strikes me as an industrial player first and he has the ability to beat 2 or three players on the dribble, showcased some beautiful passes (although not regularly) and happens to provide options almost every time for player makers. He is not a dumb player like Benzima, in fact he is smart, someone who endures a lot of pressure (unlike Brazilian kids) and has shown enormous amount of stamina. He is very good at shooting in both feet, very determined, and was never guilty of slacking off (unlike Brazilian kids). Maybe he is off form sometimes, but he is the first player to combine defensive and offensive duties for Madrid in a long, long time.

I really think Marcelo is first choice, raed.

i also have the feeling he cracks when there is pressure. Plus I think he has a retard and arrogant mentality. Maybe you rate him because he is that combined player in a long long time and not because what he really can. For now, I stay with 'he can't defend, plays well at the left wing with some tricks, speed and workrate."

You won't play CSKA, they have been ditched.

 

[Beast]

Anyone who don't rate Marcelo deserve to be shot dead.. starting with Kevin , I have a special death for Esteve

 

[beef-supreme]

Yep that's him .. do u have a nick name for him ? i feel all the shag-miss-key of mine will backfire in my face something like Zoo-dis-key , zoolander ..etc

Well it's presidents , presidents are not Barcelona or Real they are men who run the clubs at given moments . the clubs are bigger than individuals

anyhow Perez honored those who stayed in the club for 10 years or more = the three captains Raul, Guti & Iker .
Also Benzema will be given another try tomorrow vs Almeria which means Real will play a regular 4-4-2 with CR & Marcelo on the sides and Higuain /Benzema in the center

Hahaha I don't know actually tbh, no nicknames for him as far as I know, though you can call him by his first name Balázs, which you pronounce Balazh or Balage if you will, it's a lot easier than his surname. Or just Balu ahah which is the nickname for Balázs.

Yes the presidents run the club at the given moment but it's rarely possible to lay blame on a single man, as others in the club hierarchy, and perhaps in the masses, might also be involved.

I didn't catch the Almeria match, did Real really play 4-4-2, how was the match, how did you rate the performance?

 

[Beast]

we played 4-2-3-1 as usual , 9/10 in the first half... 3/10 in the first 30 minutes of the second half , than 10/10 in the last 15 minutes in which a 2-1 defeat turned to a 4-2 win ..

we seem to constantly lose any sort of concentration in the second half.. almost ALWAYS.. it's a big big weakness
vs Almeria, vs Marseille,Vs Barca, Vs Milan..etc

If any team are looking to beat us.. park the bus well in the first half and throw everything u got in the first 20 minutes of the second half than go & park the bus again

I think i'll call him Blatan for now

 

[Nándor]

i think the bottom line is that marcelo has all the abilities you guys meantioned to become a great player...workrate, tenchnique, speed, a strong shot, strong mentality etc., which is why most of us do rate him as a diamond (who's still) in the raw. however, he is still very young and has, as it's also been meantioned, a lot of weaknesses in his game. he needs to mature and shape up, otherwise he will be nothing more than a promise.

IMO, he especially needs to shape up defensively. defensively, as in LB...cause despite him being pretty damn good for madrid on the left wing, i think he has no future there. at least not in madrid. because we all know pérez and the board are not done yet, the squad is not finished yet and still a work in progress. the left wing is certain to be inforced next summer. by either ribéry, david silva or even both (after last summer i won't exclude anything). that kind of competition will either force him on the bench or back to the LB spot and compete with arbeloa.

 

[Beast]

Even with Ribery or Silva u still need Marcelo cause they are both very injury prone

 

[Cule Angles]

Marcelo's a terrible full back but he's a decent left winger, I can't however see him ever being anything more than decent and he's a player I'm happy to see lining up for madrid.