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Beast

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Our offer was 22 Mil for Inter goes up to 25.. if we offered 30 they would have accepted it.

things are not as easy as u think.. giving Inter 25 is over the budget we have already , unless they are able to sell with a good rate i believe with the current finances only one player is coming
 

Nándor

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this is more like analizing situations, behavior, market and some sort of betting/guessing. it gets my mind off, which i need this summer.

my current guess is, with all the maicon failure: 1 striker & 1 LB...being llorente/almeida and capdevila.

PS:

you don't even know my craziest conclusions :lol:

like guessings barca invited milan to the "trofeo camper" in order to make use of the meeting and try to offload ibra to milan.
or with the latest rumors of luis fabiano being on his way to marseille, a suprise attempt of pérez to snap fabiano.
or pérez will use the match against bayern to try for some players (klose or schweinsteiger...müller is out of question, he renewed till 2015).

Our offer was 22 Mil for Inter goes up to 25.. if we offered 30 they would have accepted it.

things are not as easy as u think.. giving Inter 25 is over the budget we have already , unless they are able to sell with a good rate i believe with the current finances only one player is coming

wasn't it more like real were in the end willed to offer up to 28/30m €, but moratti went back to the original demand of 35m €? i remember moratti saying madrid schould have done more and that maicon would even have left for 30m €.

as for the sales...drenthe & momo seem to be certain on their way. but that is not much. question is, what will happen with lass. he's got the most offers and the highest ones.

the low money is exactly why i think of those names. it's kinda like the low budget forces the club to either cheap reinforcements or none. look at it, capdevila & almeida would cover 2 spots and cost around 20m € (5m € and 15m €, give or take). that's still within the remaining budget, baring in mind that there are still players leaving.
 

Nándor

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well actually, i don't believe MARCA, cause ever since they ran their anti pellegrini campaign they lost credibility for me. i do read some articles thought, but that one you posted, i didn't bother reading. i mean, come on, only MARCA can talk about possible strikers in an article that headlines "madrid signs carvalho for 8m €"!!! the headline speaks for itself one would think.

i took the list from like several weeks ago when all this striker signing came up first. it had no bendtner in it and no luis fabiano. i added the latter once i came across the rumor that he was close to marseille, remembering how last season pérez was very interested in him. but again, that is more like the crazy option.

the more realistic option is almeida due the reasons i meantioned. not that i like it, he's not real madrid quality IMO. not even for 3rd choice striker. but with no almost no money left, you can't be too picky can you?
 

Moe

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Choosing to support a club means you agree with their values, understand and cherish their history and tradition of the club and the actual place and sticking by them through the good times and the bad times.

You don't support Barcelona, you only support their concept. Therefore your views on football are null and void to me.
+1000

I thought Capdevila was rather solid at the world cup. True I did think he would be the weakest link, but he really wasn't.
true. he had a solid world cup, just like Ramos. credit should go to Busquets for this. he made life easy for fullbacks by creating a 3 man defense with Puyol and Pique whenever they were attacking/out of position.
 

veryfatchocobo

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I find it funny that Spain was considered weak in the back in the Euros. In the WC, they were considered one of the best defenses (and offenses) of the tournament, and they had the same backline minus Marchena.

Anyway, on topic, what do you guys think RM should do to Kaka? Obviously, Canales, VdV, and Kaka will not be on the same field at the same time. Where will Granero fit in after the Khedira signing?
 

Hamzah

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as usual, madrid will try to sell all of them apart from one, and then the next transfer window they will spend too much on replacments because they realise they only have one for that position.
 

Beast

The Observer
So Jorge left the door open for more players arriving or departing ...
looks like something is getting cooked in the background and knowing Jose he won't wait till the end of the transfer windown
 

Metaphysical

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my boy dali says some crazy things, but he has a very good point about managers. with a (more or less) level field of players, they aren't more important than players.

obviously when you have some part-timers playing world cup winners (or other mismatches), the coach will have to help compensate that difference in quality with tactics. but in, say, barca vs. inter... yes the managers are important, yes their contributions are crucial, but it's the players who win and lose the game. all a manager has to do is not be a complete idiot and trust his players to get it done.

the greatest sides in history are full of players who were given the freedom to lead on the pitch and are remembered for their players, not their managers. they were sides that had freedom of expression.

managers perhaps affect 90% of their team's performance, but it's the shallow end. that final 10%, the deep end, is the players. and while they affect less than their managers, they affect the most important part - the actual playing of the match. mourinho, for all his brilliance, came within a diego milito injury of being the new bayern leverkusen. for all his genius and posturing it was four moments of brilliance from milito that won the treble. for all pep's genius we only won the treble thanks to that little pale guy from la mancha and that one kick he took at stamford bridge.

players decide games, and the best managers will tell you that. pep's constantly deflecting praise from him to the players.
 

barcetia

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my boy dali says some crazy things, but he has a very good point about managers. with a (more or less) level field of players, they aren't more important than players.

obviously when you have some part-timers playing world cup winners (or other mismatches), the coach will have to help compensate that difference in quality with tactics. but in, say, barca vs. inter... yes the managers are important, yes their contributions are crucial, but it's the players who win and lose the game. all a manager has to do is not be a complete idiot and trust his players to get it done.

the greatest sides in history are full of players who were given the freedom to lead on the pitch and are remembered for their players, not their managers. they were sides that had freedom of expression.

managers perhaps affect 90% of their team's performance, but it's the shallow end. that final 10%, the deep end, is the players. and while they affect less than their managers, they affect the most important part - the actual playing of the match. mourinho, for all his brilliance, came within a diego milito injury of being the new bayern leverkusen. for all his genius and posturing it was four moments of brilliance from milito that won the treble. for all pep's genius we only won the treble thanks to that little pale guy from la mancha and that one kick he took at stamford bridge.

players decide games, and the best managers will tell you that. pep's constantly deflecting praise from him to the players.
the players decide games, I agree but you need both parts(manager+players) in order to get a maximized working unit.
 

Beast

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my boy dali says some crazy things, but he has a very good point about managers. with a (more or less) level field of players, they aren't more important than players.

obviously when you have some part-timers playing world cup winners (or other mismatches), the coach will have to help compensate that difference in quality with tactics. but in, say, barca vs. inter... yes the managers are important, yes their contributions are crucial, but it's the players who win and lose the game. all a manager has to do is not be a complete idiot and trust his players to get it done.

the greatest sides in history are full of players who were given the freedom to lead on the pitch and are remembered for their players, not their managers. they were sides that had freedom of expression.

managers perhaps affect 90% of their team's performance, but it's the shallow end. that final 10%, the deep end, is the players. and while they affect less than their managers, they affect the most important part - the actual playing of the match. mourinho, for all his brilliance, came within a diego milito injury of being the new bayern leverkusen. for all his genius and posturing it was four moments of brilliance from milito that won the treble. for all pep's genius we only won the treble thanks to that little pale guy from la mancha and that one kick he took at stamford bridge.

players decide games, and the best managers will tell you that. pep's constantly deflecting praise from him to the players.

That's the most flawed logic ( consider it a praise that i called it logic .. ) i've heard and coming from you .. it's ..well lets say i understand your hidden agenda

if it's down to players.. why hasn't Argentina won the WC ? obviously they are world class player
Why Barca didn't win everything , why Real failed to win anything after Del Bosque left
cause u know it's down to players.

for the players to reach the "WC " statues they need first to be managed by a WC manager.. otherwise they are crap

Managers are more important than players.. but WC players with a crap manager and they will fail.. but average footballers with WC manager and they will shit..
player don't decide games.. they execute their managers tactics to win games , and Pep say that cause he is humble and give a moral boost to his players.. any 2 year old will tell u it's down to Pep u won , the difference between Messi Barca and Messi Argentina is there .. or CR club level and International level after Scolari left..

i would expect this from the retard but not you Meta..
 

Abaddon

King of the Bottomless Pit
obviously when you have some part-timers playing world cup winners (or other mismatches), the coach will have to help compensate that difference in quality with tactics. but in, say, barca vs. inter... yes the managers are important, yes their contributions are crucial, but it's the players who win and lose the game. all a manager has to do is not be a complete idiot and trust his players to get it done.
Barca vs. Inter is probably THE worst example you could give. That was almost all Mourinho, Inter had no business beating you.

for all pep's genius we only won the treble thanks to that little pale guy from la mancha and that one kick he took at stamford bridge.
You mean thanks to an absurdly biased referee.
 
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