Bale is a bigger match winner on his day. Some of the 1 man shows he pulled off for Wales and Spurs were crazy. [MENTION=19457]KingLeo10[/MENTION] [MENTION=19371]Yannik[/MENTION] agree or not?
He's also got more tools than Robben. He's better defensively, better crosser, better header and had a stronger right foot. Also an excellent Free Kick and Corner taker.
Yes, but Robben's whole 2010 CL campaign was a one man show. In 2014 he was the best individual player next to James. WC 2010, CL 2012, 2013 etc it was not always "just him". Ribery was there at Bayern, Sneijder was there at the Netherlands. But neither teams would have made it so far without Robben. That being said Wales wasn't only a one man show either. Ramsey or Allen were insanely good in that 2016 EC.
I believe in quantity Robben had vastly more big matches than Bale. But Bale had more decisive finals, I'll give him that.
But those are niche tools, except maybe for the defending part. It's like saying Ronaldo is more complete than Messi cause he jumps higher, or has a better trained weak foot.
Robben still creates, dribbles and shoots better than Bale. He is vastly more complete in the core areas of a winger and the lack of weak foot essentially made him the player he was, with that unioque trademark cut in that he was so feared for.
I will also add to Yannik's points that Robben when he was on, had an attacking domination to his game that you see with the likes of Messi. Dribbling, goalscoring, athleticism, passing/crossing. He was just a complete attacker. The one trick pony is overstated because while the end result was mostly a cut in and left foot curler, he had multiple ways and multiple angles from which he got the shot off.
It's a shame he wasn't a good finals performer. Or he would have been a Ballon D'Or winning player even in the peak Messi/CR7 era. He was great at getting his teams deep into competitions though, as Yannik said.
Ronaldo is indeed more complete than Messi.
Peak Ronaldo was arguably the most complete attacker there has ever been. And that's just objectively factual. No bias in that.
Speed, Strength, Dribbling, Tricks, Goals, Assists, Free Kicks, Pens, Weak Foot, Ridiculous Long Shots, Aerial game, Crossing, Positioning, Movement. Ronaldo excelled in each of these qualities at the same time. Name another attacker who was as complete and well rounded.
Not to turn this into a CR7 vs Messi, but I would say CR7 is the more complete goalscorer while Messi is the more complete attacker.
For me, attacker means goalscoring + playmaking
Ronaldo is indeed more complete than Messi.
Peak Ronaldo was arguably the most complete attacker there has ever been. And that's just objectively factual. No bias in that.
Speed, Strength, Dribbling, Tricks, Goals, Assists, Free Kicks, Pens, Weak Foot, Ridiculous Long Shots, Aerial game, Crossing, Positioning, Movement. Ronaldo excelled in each of these qualities at the same time. Name another attacker who was as complete and well rounded.