The Negreira case

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
So this case has been really muddled up by erroneous reporting both by Barca and Madrid medias, it seems that nobody seems to understand what is going on correctly because of the flood of disinformation. I looked into much more today :

The main problem that exists is that Jose Maria Enriquez Negreira did NOT sell refereeing reports. His son Javier did and has been working with other clubs also who have paid him for technical advice.

The reason we are being investigated is that we paid money to his dad (VP of ref committee) who does not sell such services and stated that refereeing reports were not part of his services to Barca at any time. This has been confirmed by the investigators who have said no written reports from him personally exist.

So the question has moved to why we were paying him, using his son as an intermediary.

He has stated that his contract with us was entirely verbal and no written products exist. Luft posted the services he claimed to provide us above and from what it looks like we were essentially paying for him to lobby for us with his influence and help us gain footing within the arbitration world.

Perhaps not directly fixing games by paying off refs to make bad decisions, but something that is a severe conflict of interest nonetheless and an abuse of his position.
 

vuji_31

Senior Member
Well in that case, it does not look good, it is bribe, and idiots in board done it.

Can't belive that somebody is that stupid to di it, and now we will have consequences...

El Confidential already writes about us getting banned from CL football next season.

Bartomeu and Rosell really destroyed the club.
 

vuji_31

Senior Member
So in short we paid Neguera to lobby for us for this:
1. Request that the Competition Committee, responsible for disciplinary sanctions against players, not be composed entirely of Madrid judges.
2. That the club had an interlocutor with the Royal Spanish Football Federation (RFEF) to take care of institutional relations.
3. Recommend thatyellow cards or expulsions could be appealed after a match, because the refereeing decision could be technically debatable.
4. Inform or notify of any institutional visit of the RFEF or the CTA.
5. Keep the club informed of possible interests or disagreements between the RFEF and Liga de F?tbol Profesional (LFP) or describe candidates to chair the LFP.

Then they have find out Neguera paid referees with sandwich makers, gifts and tickets...

Well it does not look good, if we don't play CL football next season it is gg.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
So this case has been really muddled up by erroneous reporting both by Barca and Madrid medias, it seems that nobody seems to understand what is going on correctly because of the flood of disinformation. I looked into much more today :

The main problem that exists is that Jose Maria Enriquez Negreira did NOT sell refereeing reports. His son Javier did and has been working with other clubs also who have paid him for technical advice.

The reason we are being investigated is that we paid money to his dad (VP of ref committee) who does not sell such services and stated that refereeing reports were not part of his services to Barca at any time. This has been confirmed by the investigators who have said no written reports from him personally exist.

So the question has moved to why we were paying him, using his son as an intermediary.

He has stated that his contract with us was entirely verbal and no written products exist. Luft posted the services he claimed to provide us above and from what it looks like we were essentially paying for him to lobby for us with his influence and help us gain footing within the arbitration world.

Perhaps not directly fixing games by paying off refs to make bad decisions, but something that is a severe conflict of interest nonetheless and an abuse of his position.

So he did not write those referee reports we received but his son did? I don't know how much of a difference that makes. Paying him or paying his company where his son is the one in charge, the bottom line is some referee reports did come from them, right?
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Well in that case, it does not look good, it is bribe, and idiots in board done it.

Can't belive that somebody is that stupid to di it, and now we will have consequences...

El Confidential already writes about us getting banned from CL football next season.

Bartomeu and Rosell really destroyed the club.

No way we are getting banned from the CL next season. We have NOT been convicted, first and foremost, and even if we were, it will takes years of appeals etc. for the ban to happen, like what happened to Fenerbache.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
[MENTION=13941]Luftstalag14[/MENTION] Because his vice president of referees father doesn't need to be involved in the transaction if we are paying for refereeing reports from his son (as other clubs have done to him specifically).

His own statements and our attempts to conceal the payment only solidify that suspicion that we were paying him for undue influence.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
[MENTION=13941]Luftstalag14[/MENTION] Because his vice president of referees father doesn't need to be involved in the transaction if we are paying for refereeing reports from his son (as other clubs have done to him specifically).

His own statements and our attempts to conceal the payment only solidify that suspicion that we were paying him for undue influence.

Forum is broken looks like, I can't quote anyone.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
[MENTION=13941]Luftstalag14[/MENTION] Because his vice president of referees father doesn't need to be involved in the transaction if we are paying for refereeing reports from his son (as other clubs have done to him specifically).

His own statements and our attempts to conceal the payment only solidify that suspicion that we were paying him for undue influence.

I don't know, perhaps we thought Negreira, his company which was run by his son were one of the same thing?

Was there a written contract between us and his company for the referee reports? If not, those reports could be part of the services provided by him and his company via the verbal contract or agreement. Of course, I am not that naive to believe that we paid 7.3m between 2001 and 2018 only for those referee reports. The 5 types of services reported by MD sounds more like it.

It could be described as lobbying, perhaps borderline bribing (based on the first demand), but so far it doesn't look like we were trying to have him influence the refs at all.
 

Gari

Active member
Evidence has been found that Negreira provided up to six reports to Bar?a every week. Not only did they analyse the first division referees, but also other teams from La Masia. They also made reports on Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid matches.SPORT
But this is not the point. The point is that Tebas and K decided and carried out an aggressive slander against the club, without any evidence. Tebas begged Laporta to speak in order to cling to something.
 

Gari

Active member
Evidence has been found that Negreira provided up to six reports to Bar?a every week. Not only did they analyse the first division referees, but also other teams from La Masia. They also made reports on Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid matches.SPORT
But this is not the point. The point is that Tebas and K decided and carried out an aggressive slander against the club, without any evidence. Tebas begged Laporta to speak in order to cling to something.
 

vuji_31

Senior Member
It is really funny how Tebas is so against us, and so favouring RM faggots and they don't want to see it.

He is definition of evil, when you look his face you see everything you need.
 

JerseyAddict

Well-known member
What is the worst is that Barcelona legacy and team and players and fans are dragged through the mud. For some stupid reports that half brained observer could have written.Every football website screams about bribing with hams and tickets... Ffs... This is beyond "parallel universe" because we have seen the level of refereeing Barca got in last 10y.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Let them scream, show us the evidence that those hams and tickets were indeed given with explicit or implicit instructions to favor Barca.
 

Home of Barca Fans

Top