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Hatem Ben Arfa

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this league is too easy for him.

it is so easy to exploit poor technical play from EPL teams.

Messi would score 50 league goals looking at how poor technically EPL teams are. And Norwich are considered a good technical passing side!

RVP will definitely score a 3rd goal for his hat-trick.
 

Robbie

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When the team was built around Cesc and he was in form, he scored 19 goals 19 assists in 36 games. RVP is in the form of his life and is now pretty much the focal point of all chances created (no one else at the club has scored more than 2 goals). If he stays fit all season, the sky's the limit.
 

Catalonian Devil

Shukran Pep
When the team was built around Cesc and he was in form, he scored 19 goals 19 assists in 36 games. RVP is in the form of his life and is now pretty much the focal point of all chances created (no one else at the club has scored more than 2 goals). If he stays fit all season, the sky's the limit.


Real nice display from Arsenal today, nice to see the smooth football back...

However Forehead has a final ball that would make me look like Messi
 

Bergkamp10

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Absolutely unreal :worthy: but the lack of credit for Walcott, Gervinho, Ramsey, Song etc who are producing all these goals for RvP is annoying.
 
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Dinho

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this league is too easy for him.

it is so easy to exploit poor technical play from EPL teams.

Messi would score 50 league goals looking at how poor technically EPL teams are. And Norwich are considered a good technical passing side!

RVP will definitely score a 3rd goal for his hat-trick.

The teams in The Premier League are much better defensively than the teams in La Liga. Messi would not score as many goals in England.
 

Robbie

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Real nice display from Arsenal today, nice to see the smooth football back...

However Forehead has a final ball that would make me look like Messi

Gervinho is still better than Nasri. His final ball may be shite, but he passes defenders for fun and sprints after every lost cause as if there's a minute left on the clock.
 

Catalonian Devil

Shukran Pep
Gervinho is still better than Nasri. His final ball may be shite, but he passes defenders for fun and sprints after every lost cause as if there's a minute left on the clock.

Oh don't get me wrong atm I'd take him over Nasri any day.

He got everything right except the final ball, that'll come with experience...

Always a handful for defenders to deal with...
 
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barcelonista

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The teams in The Premier League are much better defensively than the teams in La Liga. Messi would not score as many goals in England.

They aren't. It's the typical English stereotype. Good defense = big, strong, tall defenders with spectacular tackles. The pace of the game in England is extremely high, which leaves tons of spaces to be exploited. While the approach in Spain is far more tactical and technical. The philosophy is not to get the ball as fast as possible forward ("kick and rush") in Spain. The pace is slower, the spaces are much tighter, therefore scoring is much harder. Has Silva not talked about this recently?

Goals conceded: top 5 teams in PL and Spain currently after 11 games:

PL:

1. City: 10
2. ManU: 12
3. Newcastle: 8
4. Chelsea: 15
5. Spurs*: 15

avg. conceded: 12

(*Spurs with only 10 games)

La Liga:

1. Real Madrid: 7
2. Barca: 6
3. Valencia: 9
4. Levante: 9
5. Sevilla: 8

avg. conceded: 7.8

Doesn't look any different if you look at the bottom 5:

PL:

16. Fulham: 15
17. Everton: 15
18. Bolton W.: 27
19. Blackburn R.: 24
20. Wigan A.: 20

avg. conceded: 20.2

La Liga:

16. Saragossa: 22
17. S. Gijon: 16
18. R. Santander: 15
19. Granada: 12
20: Real Sociedad: 18

avg. conceded: 16.6

You can look at it from another perspective as well. City scored not only more goals than Barcelona so far but also collected 6 (!) more points than us and 3 more points than Real Madrid.

Top scorers in PL currently:

Robin van Persie: 11 goals in 11 games
Dzeko: 10 goals in 9 games
Agüero: 9 goals in 10 games
Rooney: 9 in 10 games
Demba Ba: 8 in 10 games

Those guys manage goal ratios around 1. Now imagine what Messi would do then, considering he's 10 times the player than all of them together (except Rooney, he's white Pelé and so on).

The PL gets too much credit due to their top 4 (ManU, City, Chelsea, Arsenal) and a lot of media hype from the English press.
 

Hatem Ben Arfa

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They aren't. It's the typical English stereotype. Good defense = big, strong, tall defenders with spectacular tackles. The pace of the game in England is extremely high, which leaves tons of spaces to be exploited. While the approach in Spain is far more tactical and technical. The philosophy is not to get the ball as fast as possible forward ("kick and rush") in Spain. The pace is slower, the spaces are much tighter, therefore scoring is much harder. Has Silva not talked about this recently?

Goals conceded: top 5 teams in PL and Spain currently after 11 games:

PL:

1. City: 10
2. ManU: 12
3. Newcastle: 8
4. Chelsea: 15
5. Spurs*: 15

avg. conceded: 12

(*Spurs with only 10 games)

La Liga:

1. Real Madrid: 7
2. Barca: 6
3. Valencia: 9
4. Levante: 9
5. Sevilla: 8

avg. conceded: 7.8

Doesn't look any different if you look at the bottom 5:

PL:

16. Fulham: 15
17. Everton: 15
18. Bolton W.: 27
19. Blackburn R.: 24
20. Wigan A.: 20

avg. conceded: 20.2

La Liga:

16. Saragossa: 22
17. S. Gijon: 16
18. R. Santander: 15
19. Granada: 12
20: Real Sociedad: 18

avg. conceded: 16.6

You can look at it from another perspective as well. City scored not only more goals than Barcelona so far but also collected 6 (!) more points than us and 3 more points than Real Madrid.

Top scorers in PL currently:

Robin van Persie: 11 goals in 11 games
Dzeko: 10 goals in 9 games
Agüero: 9 goals in 10 games
Rooney: 9 in 10 games
Demba Ba: 8 in 10 games

Those guys manage goal ratios around 1. Now imagine what Messi would do then, considering he's 10 times the player than all of them together (except Rooney, he's white Pelé and so on).

The PL gets too much credit due to their top 4 (ManU, City, Chelsea, Arsenal) and a lot of media hype from the English press.

Exactly!
 

Bergkamp10

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The difficulty with English football is its physically and pace. That's what makes RvP's achievements so impressive. Barca would walk the league here but they'd get a lot more injuries imo.
 

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