Xavi Hernández

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Most of the players Pep has signed were regarded as super talents or very good players already.

Yes he does elevate players, but let's not whitewash it and make him out to be some Messiah that's turning bums into great players.
 

Gnidrologist

Senior Member
:lol: All of those are examples of very good players that cost a lot of money for a reason. Sure, it's just a coincidence Pep's squad cost over 1 billion. The stuff people believe...
So why is Chelsy and MU, who squandered even more a laughing stock?
Very simple, because Ten Hag and Poch may be decent coaches, but are several magnitudes bellow Pep, who can teach his footballers how to play the best any coach has ever managed. And that was the whole point. Expenditure here is irrelevant as Pep isn't spending more than other top clubs and he isn't cherry picking galctico players either. He simply knows what he's doing better than any other coach, capisci?
 

jamrock

Senior Member
So why is Chelsy and MU, who squandered even more a laughing stock?
Very simple, because Ten Hag and Poch may be decent coaches, but are several magnitudes bellow Pep, who can teach his footballers how to play the best any coach has ever managed. And that was the whole point. Expenditure here is irrelevant as Pep isn't spending more than other top clubs and he isn't cherry picking galctico players either. He simply knows what he's doing better than any other coach, capisci?
None would disagree with that, he's the goat.
But it also doesn't mean he's buying average players and making them WC.
 

Messigician

Senior Member
So why is Chelsy and MU, who squandered even more a laughing stock?
Very simple, because Ten Hag and Poch may be decent coaches, but are several magnitudes bellow Pep, who can teach his footballers how to play the best any coach has ever managed. And that was the whole point. Expenditure here is irrelevant as Pep isn't spending more than other top clubs and he isn't cherry picking galctico players either. He simply knows what he's doing better than any other coach, capisci?
Well what about the teams who paid less and beat him in UCL multiple times? Goes both ways
 

Gnidrologist

Senior Member
Sure. But his dominance in domestic leagues means, he absolutely knows how to teach every single player his style and discipline. And he has never had even close to the quality of Barca 2008-2012 since.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Rodri was thought of to be the next busquets at Villarreal and A.madrid

He took 1 season to adjust to the EPL that's it.

Every player listed wafs either WC already are very highly rated when they joined city.

Which is why they all cost serious money.

Pedro
Ake
And such are the exception to the rule not the rule.

He signs either WC players or players that everyone with an eye for football knows has WC potential.

Indeed. He makes great players reach their best and doesn't need to waste his time making potential fulfill it.

He has Michel and the City network for that.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Most of the players Pep has signed were regarded as super talents or very good players already.

Yes he does elevate players, but let's not whitewash it and make him out to be some Messiah that's turning bums into great players.

Being a super talent, or a wonderkid, and becoming an elite player important in a title winning machine are two completely different things
Mourinho had De Bryune and Salah, and didn't know what to do with them.
The difference a top coach makes in the development of a player is glaring obvious

It's also a myth that Pep buys ready-made products. Only Walker and to a certain extent Haaland were already substantially developed before he bought them.
Look at the status and the ages of all the rest: Sane, Gundo, Bernardo, Dias, Ake, Akanji, etc
Talents, but he MADE all of them, he turned them into superstarts
Only idiots would think that they would be the same under a meh coach.

There is also the flipside: imagine having a coach that knew how to develop his players.
How would Kounde, RAphina, Araujo, even Pedri Gavi, even even Ferran and Ansu would look under a coach that develops his players, and not a moron that thinks transfers is buying ready-made articles from a super-market?
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
You guys forgot Grealish, who sits on the bench :lol: Another 120m transfer :lol:

But poor old Pep... he didn't have to face any adversity if we are honest.
 
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DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Being a super talent, or a wonderkid, and becoming an elite player important in a title winning machine are two completely different things
Mourinho had De Bryune and Salah, and didn't know what to do with them.
The difference a top coach makes in the development of a player is glaring obvious

De Bruyne was the Bundesliga player of the Year.

Pep didn't have the rookie, young De Bruyne with his first proper experience in a big club. He had the guy who went to Wolfsburg and developed into the footballer of the year in Germany. The player with 10 goals + 20 assists in the BuLi that season.

They're not similar cases.
 

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