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The 12 point reference is hypothetically assuming that Barca could win both games

46 million... yeah right. What really happened is a Gallagher Felix swap.

Is he that bad though? I would still have him as one of the best midfielders in the world. There isn't that much quality out there.

The only way to beat Madrid will be to try and dominate the ball completely as this team isn't capable to win any open or transitional games with top teams. I still have hope we could beat them in H2Hs because they're still not so good against us despite a better squad.

You don't win 90+ points every season with players like Lenglet. Ever.

Well, it's not really how it used to be, these teams are much easier to beat than they were in the past. Top teams are losing less and less points to inferior sides as the game advances tactically and physically wise. Nothing other than a win should be expected.

Not gonna lie I feel that it's weird we weren't even interested in him for 15m euros. That ship has sailed now I guess but could have been a good signing. Could use him right now as we need a DM and more presence in the midfield, he could actually be a great fit with the rest of our...

It's a bit concerning that the team seems so unaccustomed and unsuitable to his football. If we had any money this window we had to sign a DM and more physicality, we just had to.

At the same time, Madrid are historically bad at defending LaLiga, especially with Ancelotti who is more specialist in CL than league football. Would back their sheer attacking power to just overwhelm most teams but who knows, some injuries here and there, some luck and we could still compete...

True. I have to say a lot of the reason we were shit last season was having him in goal for so long. He cost us a lot of points.

Check post again, I was editing whilst you replied, you are right though, it depends at what point you were winning and how strong the opponent was.

And what happened last season where we 'made 85'? That was my point, 85 last season is a bit of a positive way to spin it when we were always miles off and cut the gap when the league was already over. In contrast with the season before where we were practically always ahead and lost some...

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And also made 88 the season before so not that different. As mentioned main difference was Madrid's performance. I know what your response will be to this and I advise you to consider how it applies to the post that I am quoting here.

Needs 92+ to win maybe, but I don't think achieving that is realistic at the moment.

How many points would you expect?

Flick needs to set him a goalscoring target like Ancelotti set Valverde. Such a ridiculously talented player, probably one of the main things he's missing is more goal threat and directness, he needs to improve that goalbox movement and particularly finishing. I almost get the feeling if he...

That's a fair assessment. I would expect Flick to achieve around 85 league points and depending on draw make it to CL QFs or SFs.

Yes, but do note that Madrid had a uniquely weak year on all fronts. Indeed the main difference between 22-23 and 23-24 is that Madrid went from 78 points to 95(!) If Flick was competing against Madrid 22-23 then I would expect him to win the title. In other words, if Madrid are keeping an...

I sense this post is half joking because you actually make a really observant point. Part of why team morale was so good under Xavi, I sense, because they actually bought his excuses and thought they deserved to win all those games but simply lost due to referees. They didn't lose confidence...