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  1. MMKa

    10 - Lionel Messi - v1

    No matches until Feb 5 in 2010 so, in 2003-09: 22 goals and 10 assists in 67 matches.
  2. MMKa

    10 - Lionel Messi - v1

    Few things. -It's great but... -It's difficult/impossible to read. Blurred. -Please do not use 3d in charts - it's harder to interpret because of perspective. -Is the size of penalty pie in relation with number of attemps? It seems another one is a bit smaller, but can't read why. -Club stats at...
  3. MMKa

    10 - Lionel Messi - v1

    I think Messi helps achieving that mostly by scoring and assisting and creating chances. Like yesterday. Five goals with his foot near in action.
  4. MMKa

    10 - Lionel Messi - v1

    A bit more luck, he would have scored two more. You are referring to Pelés 126 in 104 games in 1959, right? Messi this year: 60 in 41 games. He will have max 37 games this year... as 5 of them are club friendlies, 67 goals - possible? Last official + unofficial 200 games: 200 goals and 99...
  5. MMKa

    10 - Lionel Messi - v1

    1) For the people who do not understand spoken English well; 2) if forum software does not support embedded video; 3) if you wan't the message is delivered without need to click play button.
  6. MMKa

    10 - Lionel Messi - v1

    It's 56th game in Barcelona he misses injured. 18 in 05-06, 20 in 06-07, 15 in 07-08, 2 in 10-11. All of them official matches, this is the first friendly if I have not missed any. He was injured a lot before Pep era!
  7. MMKa

    10 - Lionel Messi - v1

    Bar+Arg. Will Messi do better this season? Only Barcelona
  8. MMKa

    10 - Lionel Messi - v1

    10 assists is a record, says Totalbarca. I can make another list with (G+A)/game. This one has "(G+A) / goals for", in other words, a messidepencia factor: about 50 % of goals against the top clubs. The "(G+A)/game" list must be tweaked a little however. There are many teams with one or two...
  9. MMKa

    10 - Lionel Messi - v1

    Sorting: goals, assists, minutes.
  10. MMKa

    10 - Lionel Messi - v1

    Yes, something like that but I think they are mainly from Cadet, Infantil, Alevin, Benjamin and whatmore youth teams. Yes, that's the case: http://arxiu.fcbarcelona.cat/web/castellano/noticies/futbol/temporada10-11/07/13/n100713112005.html It's all about a list criteria. It has to be same for...
  11. MMKa

    10 - Lionel Messi - v1

    Why not B and C? They are senior teams however. And why junior U-23 and not junior U-20? Besides... (see below) Let's check them. Bican: Rapid-Amateure 3g@2, Rapid-Reserve 24g@13, in division 2: 51+ goals, also some Praha, Ostrava "national team". Without them 728 goals. Romario: Brazil U-20...
  12. MMKa

    10 - Lionel Messi - v1

    ? X goals in Y matches in Z team/competition. If you want to exclude it in to only national team and official club matches, Messi has 306+155 in 454. Pele: 770 goals in 822 games. I think now it's ok to link to my match list as a source: All club senior + U-20 & U-23 national team games...
  13. MMKa

    10 - Lionel Messi - v1

    Excluding Juvenil A (31 goals in 21), B (many), Cadet A (at least 36 in 30), B (who knows?) and Infantil B (one source says 6 in 6) matches, Messi has 17 in 31 Barcelona first team club friendlies 5 in 10 Barca C matches 6 in 22 Barca B matches 169 in 214 Barcelona La Liga matches 20 in 33 Copa...
  14. MMKa

    10 - Lionel Messi - v1

    I can't see any sources there, but as well, none in the list I linked (edit: until now). But here is another, Historial Spanish Soccer Database (only first division goals): Zarra 251 Sanchez 234 Raul 228 ... Messi 169 Eto'o 162 Villa 161 I don't know what is that list in the article of La Liga...
  15. MMKa

    10 - Lionel Messi - v1

    ? La Liga Top 30 highest goalscorers, all-time 1. Telmo Zarra 252 2. Hugo Sánchez 234 3. Raúl 228 ... 12. Lionel Messi 169 13. David Villa 163 --- Wikipedia lists for Villa also his goals in Division de Honor Juvenil, Segunda B, Segunda and Primera, 223. Is that the count you compared? Messi...
  16. MMKa

    10 - Lionel Messi - v1

    Club World Cup: 4 Denilson (South Korea Pohang Steelers) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_Club_World_Cup
  17. MMKa

    10 - Lionel Messi - v1

    Yes he was. His debut in Juvenil A: 2003-09-14 vs Hércules 3–0 (Messi 1-0, 12'). Short Messi pre-history: 1992-94 Grandoli 1994-00 Newell's Old Boys 2000-01 Infantil B (tryout on September 2000, 8/Jan/2001 an agreement, able to play only in friendlies, friendly tournaments) 2001-02 Cadet B...
  18. MMKa

    10 - Lionel Messi - v1

    Did Barcelona Juvenil teams have a player called "Mesi" in 2003-04 or is it misspelled "Messi"? http://hemeroteca.mundodeportivo.com/preview/2003/10/27/pagina-37/563123/pdf.html "Guinart, Xumetra (Ramón), Francesc, Piqué, Casado, Sastre, Oriol Riera (Sergi), Zurita (Jordi Gómez), Baby, Mesi y...
  19. MMKa

    10 - Lionel Messi - v1

    I thought it was own goal and Messi did not even touch it. Must check it later.
  20. MMKa

    10 - Lionel Messi - v1

    Not sure if serious, or just kidding. But actually, he could. He scored more in three seasons. Pele's four best seasons (official; friendlies, exhibitions): * 1959: 126 in 104 (64 in 58; 62 in 46) * 1961: 111 in 75 (62 in 38; 49 in 37) * 1965: 106 in 75 (73 in 56; 33 in 19) * 11-12: 93 in 75 (82...

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