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noone is debating that? the point is that he is not = mj thats all

thanks for your concern for your information im watching netflix on the side so its pretty chill im not arguing messi is not the the goat. that debate is over. but the barca/messi bubble here is so thick some actually think messi is comparable to mj, lol, or that messi's career has been much...

? what do you mean 'messi won what he has won and it is more than anyone? serious question--whats the point? messi isnt the first to win a wc or a cl or both. he certainly isnt the player with the most wcs or the most cls i dont get the point lol its not like he has 2wc and 4cl or 1 wc and 5...

you were right about messi > cr doesnt mean youre right about messi = mj

rat lmao stfu

and? whats the point? how many CLs did messi win post xavi and iniesta? (zeeeero) would messi have won Wc/copa america without di maria, alvarez etc? nope wahts ur point slol

no goat worthy of that title would have cried the way messi did in the 0-4 at anfield nor would have participated in the demolitions that were the 7-0 and 8-2 to bayern. simple as that.

stfu rat you add nothing to the debate because you are as insightful about messi as edu aguirre is about cr

ok kl aguirre lmao

the point is that even if MJ isnt the top assister or scorer, the performed and delivered when it mattered the most, which is why he played in 6 NBA finals and won them all. it matters little if messi ends up scoring 1000 goals against eibar, betis, and st etienne in france. who cares. in the...

you make good points but points to points in MJ's career that are even remotely comparable to: messi's 0-7, 8-2 to bayern the 0-4 to liverpool 5 international finals lost missing PK in copa america final failing to score or assist vs RM (direct rival) for like 9 games in a row copa del rey...

kl is just a sad messi edu aguirre lol as cringe as aguirre is, thats KL but for messi pathetic rat

fair enough but i dont think the messi camp wants to go the direction of most x anything pele has more wcs mbappe has more wc final goals CR has more CL goals CR has more CL KO goals CR has more intl matches goals CR and Seedorf have more CL titles etc etc etc dont think that way of thinking...

also MJ did not have messi's blotches: all of the finals MJ contested he won. messi lost like 5 international finals lol MJ has nothing like messis 8-2, 0-4, 0-7 to bayern etc mj was simply never humiliated like that his highest peak was higher than messi and he never had messi's lows. easy case

if messi had a CL 3peat and a world cup the comparison could be made but he doesnt even have a cl 2peat lol

diff sports of course so the comparison isnt easy but in terms of overall greatness the case is pretty simple-- did x player achieve their respective sports biggest trophy, biggest individual accolade, and how often? MJs mvps, finals mvps, and 2x 3peat >>>>> messi also take into account that...

nope, messi did beat CR but 1- cr is still the CL goat 2- messi is well below MJ as are all other athletes. no achievemnt in soccer comes close (ie 2x CL trepeat or 3x wc x 2)

yeah, the CR-messi debate is over in messi's favour but please, messi is not in MJ's league

adu aguirre is to CR what KL is to messi lol

deal w it messi isnt even on the same league as jordan